Carebears will achieve the opposite of what they want

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Carebear players, I don't think you even really realize that what you are arguing for is going to result in the opposite of what you actually want.

If switching between singleplayer and multiplayer is not restricted, people will move to singleplayer to do all the activities they need to make money, or just do things, unmolested. This in turn basically destroys any need for players to take care of pirates, as pirates won't be able to affect you.

In one fell swoop you basically destroy half the possible professions the game could offer, simply because you don't want to interact with other people.

What this creates is a situation where players go through singleplayer to earn money and fit out their ships, and then enter multiplayer for the express purpose of PVP.

In your efforts to get rid of PVP, you actually just divide the playerbase and create a situation that makes PVP even more prevalent in multiplayer; as multiplayer is no longer about hauling, exploration, storylines or missions - you do those in singleplayer unless you want to lose a lot of credits. No, multiplayer just becomes a massive arena for PVP.

You people don't seem to understand that this is a videogame, when what you apparently want is a toy. In a videogame, there will be someone there to kick down your sandcastle. Conflict is half again the point of it and is the root of player interaction.
 
Sorry, but that's wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to start in telling you, you are wrong...

...short version: ED is an exploration based space adventure with optional multiplayer... it's not EVE, there are no "carebears" and you frankly don't have much clue what you are talking about... no offense.
 
Nobody is arguing that is what they want to do. People are arguing that is what other people want to do. Big difference. It would be a lot easier if we stopped worrying about what other people will do and trust that FD have things in hand.
 
Carebear players, I don't think you even really realize that what you are arguing for is going to result in the opposite of what you actually want.

Maybe not use derogatory term and it will be more productive to have such discussion? :)

If switching between singleplayer and multiplayer is not restricted, people will move to singleplayer to do all the activities they need to make money, or just do things, unmolested. This in turn basically destroys any need for players to take care of pirates, as pirates won't be able to affect you.

You have crystall ball, do you? Or telemetry from FD office? On what evidence you operate? On your own logic? Remember, people play for completely different reasons. Please don't act like you know why I am sticking with open play, and why others play solo. Because you obviously a little bit clueless.

You also don't grasp "we are just small part of NPC universe" part. There will be NPC pirates, as in previous games. They were quite harsh.

In one fell swoop you basically destroy half the possible professions the game could offer, simply because you don't want to interact with other people.

No, it doesn't destroy anything, because this is *not* pure PvP game. If you keep viewing ED that way, you will be hugely disappointed. It is PvE where E includes players.

What this creates is a situation where players go through singleplayer to earn money and fit out their ships, and then enter multiplayer for the express purpose of PVP.

In your efforts to get rid of PVP, you actually just divide the playerbase and create a situation that makes PVP even more prevalent in multiplayer; as multiplayer is no longer about hauling, exploration, storylines or missions - you do those in singleplayer unless you want to lose a lot of credits. No, multiplayer just becomes a massive arena for PVP.

You people don't seem to understand that this is a videogame, when what you apparently want is a toy. In a videogame, there will be someone there to kick down your sandcastle. Conflict is half again the point of it and is the root of player interaction.

You seem don't understand that people play as they choose. Your efforts to push forced one mode in fact seems to divide playerbase more than any solo player would. Please stop that. You are clearly clueless and your companions too. Please invest more time in actually *understanding* game before doing huge claims and engaging in forum warfare.
 
Do I smell something awful?

Never kick someone else's sandcastle - they may have filled it with their landmine stash :)

It does demonstrate the need for h4rDc0r3 pvp peeps to just want to give other people bad days for the sake of it, rather than any real in-game reason.

Ignore lists will reach end-game raid levels :D
 
First: don't call me "Carebear" because i play Solo most of the time, thank you.

Second: I'm relly fed up to discuss this. I'll prepare a cut&paste response tomorrow.

TL;DR version:
I'm not playing solo because i'm afraid of PvP or of losing something. There should be players around to back up my statement.
I'm playing solo because i WANT to play solo. Not seeing you, not see the pirate, not see the trader.
I'm very antisocial at times...in game and in real life.
 
I'm lost,

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Are they some sort of trade good? Where can I buy them?
 

Yaffle

Volunteer Moderator
I always find the best way to get people to come over and talk to me, and then come round to my point of view, is to insult them and tell them how wrong they are.

Works every time. Oh yeah.
 

Mu77ley

Volunteer Moderator
I wish these PvP Carebears would stop whining that nobody wants to play with them by their rules without providing any proof whatsoever of it actually happening....
 
If the game goes PvP centric, then it will die. It's as simple as that. Take your pick: dead game, or game everyone can enjoy.
 
Where have you been the past two years Reconcilliation?!

No one is forcing Elite to be the way it is heading...certainly not 'carebears'.

The Online Open, and Online Solo have been in the design documents from the very beginning, right from the early days of the Kickstarter campaign. Maybe you missed out on those details, and that is why you are here shouting.

But this isn't the doing of 'carebears' - this is the doing of Frontier. It is what they want! :D
 

MrBungle

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The term 'carebear' tends to be used by people who are lacking in something in RL ('pants department', self esteem, love from parents/others, whatever) :rolleyes:
 
No, it doesn't destroy anything, because this is *not* pure PvP game. If you keep viewing ED that way, you will be hugely disappointed. It is PvE where E includes players.

That's acctualy called PvEvP
also PvP does not strictly mean that everyone will be out there to kill everyone
 
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