Carrier commodities market average comparison weirdly adjusting to my set prices?

Sorry if this has been reported before, but does anyone else get in their carrier's market,
the (should be Galatically-consistent ) prices for " profit at Galactic average",.. weirdly CLOSE, to the prices they set for their own sales?

wwwwhat is going on there? If it's supposed to be a comparative reduction ... i.e. Galatic-price - player's-carrier-price ... and a resultant profit OR loss,..

then WHY... is this happening?
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sorry, also, perhaps i should've labelled this one ;

' Carrier commodities market average comparison weirdly adjusting to my set prices, and just-buggered generally? ' :D
 
And if you're thinking that somehow i just got extremely lucky / unlucky with somehow subconsciously guessing that MANY,

like somehow guessing the how-many jellybeans in the jar game,.. what... 15 times in a row?

wow... then multiply the chances of that which are probably already minutely rediculous,..
with that happening for LITERALLY EVERY listing, i have in my market.

it is no coincidence, and just to clarify,

this is when i'm SETTING, my prices, as i'm making the listing,

to 120%, 141% , 162% ... etc

if it's supposed to be accurate, then why is the DIFFERENCE between these two columns, so-CLOSE?

i didn't check every one, but when skimming, it looked rarely ever more than 10 or 15 or so. ??
( not that that would be an accurate calculation anyway, i just mean in terms of IDENTIFYING this unseen calculation, or 2nd data-set - can we group-think here, on what / WHERE:geek::coffee: it might be? finding WHERE, might help Frontier to work out where or what the bug is 🥳.

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IMO, the smallness of the difference, looks like a currently, rapidly, changing-price changED-price (from a small amount of time) , and what is being displayed in the "PROFIT" column, is not actually a product of a comparison, a resultant of a comparison ( + / - / X / / ... a result OF, a mathematical-function ) at ALL,.. but actually just a straight listing, of that changING-Galatic-average, in some LIVE sense, that's perhaps even more up to date, than the amount your carrier suggests when you're setting a price? perhaps the amount you're choosing when it shows you the + & - symbols and the relative%, is from a list downloaded when you logged-on ... but in the market table,.. not in "Carrier administration" ... downloads one in-the-moment? i.e. RE-downloads one, each time a commodities market screen is opened,.. whereas the prices dataset FOR,.. carrier-market-admin ... (could be 2 sets of data, yeah?) ... is only downloaded ONCE, each game boot-up? meaning literally, that in say,.. 3 hours play, a up-to-date, LIVE, price, might have changed since you booted the game, no longer MATCH the initial, and then something goes wrong? a check, and perhaps re-ORDERing to be SURE, of which cells are subtracted from which, or whatever,.. however you have it programmed,.. to check EACH POINT in the process? how could it be so far off,..

...for "profit from"? i.e. what should be, a difference,.. AFTER a subtraction. I have almost magical guess-the-jellybeans-in-the-jar ability? i dont think so.
And even-if i did, it should be DISPLAYING, the difference - like what i typed in in the image ; 0 , 0, 4, 3, etc.

THAT's a difference AFTER a subtraction,.. so... ??

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it's like someone buggered up WHICH data-set to refer-from, for this display, entirely,.. and is either trying to IGNORE what they do know, or perhaps someone has quit or something, and it used to be their responsibility,... aaaaagh,.. whatever Frontier! just fix it! how long could it take to re-program? there are probably HUNDREDS of teenagers out there that could do it (so it can't be difficult, honestly 😑), and would probably do it for FREE just to not have it never work!...

ASAP please! instead of whatever fix/additions planning you've got lined up for specifically ED - some new frills, for the Titans, so they can look oh-so butch in alien frilly-bits!.. eeuurrrghhh... * demon-blood metmorphisis noises * ... something so petty occupies your time, while embarrassing basic FUNCTIONS, remain looking like Peter Griffin did them!:oops:
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Yes you've got many games to have to repair / upgrade other-than ED,

but if this one is a easy as identifying which data-set,.. which column, perhaps, one reference point refers to... so,.. like... column-AD on a spreadsheet, instead of column-AE ... ugh! that's a 15 MINUTE job,... not a 6,.. 9,.. 12,.. 15.. MONTHS job!! come on! it's neglect like this, that loses you lots of players who just want THINGS TO WORK 😫)
 
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Yes mine reports incorrectly aswell if ... what I think is supposed to happen is whats supposed to happen ?!~~?

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the (should be Galatically-consistent ) prices for " profit at Galactic average",.. weirdly CLOSE, to the prices they set for their own sales?
The right column is the profit to be made, not the average price, i.e. the market display assumes the average price to be 0 or close to it. And yes, it's been this way for a long time. I don't remember if it was working right before the FC prices in station markets broke (there, the FC market price is usually shown as 0 or 2cr)
 
Pretty much all the information shown in-game related to carrier commodities, with the exception of the buy/sell price shown only when viewing the commodity screen on-board the carrier in question, is broken and unreliable. All the "nearest markets" stuff shown at stations, the commodities filter in the galmap/system map, etc. are all broken and present false information.
 
The right column is the profit to be made, not the average price, i.e. the market display assumes the average price to be 0 or close to it. And yes, it's been this way for a long time. I don't remember if it was working right before the FC prices in station markets broke (there, the FC market price is usually shown as 0 or 2cr)

mmm, i assumed it was something like that, i assume you mean though, the right column is SUPPOSED to be displaying potential-profit, at (seeing as though it's supposed to be calculating a DIFFERENCE between more than one market, even-if an average rather than a specific market like it normally does)

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I guess my MAIN point, is like... how the hell could ANYthing that's supposed to be of prices EXTERNALLY to your carrier, MATCH, what you-yourself, have only just created,.. so what's the point of such a malfunctioning column?

also, if it's to've shown a pure 1 for 1 FROM zero, as you're suggesting, then take another look at mine, and the manual quick calcs i've drawn in - if it was copying my prices and not comparing them with anything ELSE,.. then they should all be zero, like in BL1P's images.

But they're not!

so-what,.. like i said with my jelly-bean-jar metaphor ... i'm supposed to've guessed a almost-perfect number.... 25? 40 times, near a local or galatic average?

no f***ing way. utterly laughable gooleplex sort of number chance of that.

MUST be modifying the number i'm putting in, for MY price, and then creating false-data, for the 2nd column,
BEFORE doing the subtraction.

w.t.f. is THAT what Frontier wants from the programmer who programmed it?
difficult to imagine any situation when they would. why would they.
so i'm assuming it's not,..

another possibility that came to mind, is that it is comparing the galatic average, to perhaps a NEARBY average, assuming cmdrs will research nearby prices MANUALLY, rather than using 3rd party software (goodluck trying to make us! :sneaky: ) ... and THEN,
getting a common, small difference,

and then adding that diffference, + or - ... to whatever price YOU set.

it would be absurd, to assume that everyone would manually set prices to nearby averages all the time,

these are KIDS playing with PLAY MONEY ... not realworld stock & capital handlers, and even those, push slight and sometimes 'gambling' margins,.. or else things like stock exchanges would be pointless,.. so.... ugh?.. my brain hurts trying to imagine what they could've been thinking.

Surely if you set something hugely expensive, titan mats ... to 1cr ... something that is supposed to be finding AVERAGES,.. either local OR galatic,.. should not find "1" ... or oooOOOooo,.. perhaps 3 .... and then be showing me utter RUBBISH information, that i could make a profit of * drumroll * = 2cr !

by 'finding a local that varies a little' ? is that what each is supposed to be?
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that's what i mean... it doesn't look like it's using ANY kind of average,
and instead, is using some kind of CORRECTION, or VARIATION,

and just adding that to whatever number YOU put in!

bizzare.

that's not even what some risk-minimalisation corporate brown-nosing guru would program,
i.e. EVEN IF that was what you wanted from your programmer ( local (conservative-no-risk) averages NEAR the galatic average) ) ...
... then it's fair to say, Frontier, that THAT'S STILL not what you're getting, from whoever left it this way!!

They left it literally not working! no matter what hype they spun on how advanced or,.. pre-calculatory,.. or,.. customised,.. or,.. 'multiple-steps-in-one' or something.

whatever, their spiel - it's STILL not doing, whatever they wanted it to / what you asked for it to,
and presumably also, TOLD you, it was going-to.

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If it was a by-product of someone leaving the company, or perhaps even, the late err... whathis name,.. one of the founders,.. then ugh... despite the MOMENTARY sensitivity of the community, and ofc the head team, Braben himself, etc,..

... just let someone else handle it, please! 😣
 
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The right column is the profit to be made, not the average price, i.e. the market display assumes the average price to be 0 or close to it. And yes, it's been this way for a long time. I don't remember if it was working right before the FC prices in station markets broke (there, the FC market price is usually shown as 0 or 2cr)


yes, it USED to work, when you're in your ship, you could at one time,
get correct adjusted profit (a REMAINDER, not a whole-number) ... comparing if you sold HERE,.. compared-to, the galatic av,

and at another time, you'd select a market, which i think is still the current.

the logic of not having a market selected,
might explain what's in images like BL1P's,

where the amount is EXACTLY the same,

but what the !&$^*!^&$'s going on in mine?

i.e. where there's some tiny variation? (2, profit, 3 profit,.. etc)
w.t.f.

if you haven't selected a market, it should just give you an error message SAYING SO.

we're talking about stoners munching on a Amsterdam cookie, at 3AM here,.. they might NEED a reminder, that you need to select one first.
:)
 
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