It would be great if zoos who share a franchise could share research, they are partnered zoos so would have similar access to research. its annoying if you want to build a pretty zoo that you need to build it up to do all the research and money and then have to pull it all down to make it pretty. would be great if we could have the ability to do research in one and then build pretty in another.
Carry over research to shared franchises
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No, I do not like this idea. If anything were to be carried over the only thing I'd want is the themes you've learned from other regions. It makes sense that you'd have to research things again as Zoos do NOT share information on many of the things they research and it is pretty difficult to do so. The only way I could see it working is if you had the ability to trade vets from one of your Zoos to another and only then if it wasn't where if you got a vet or mechanic from another zoo that you learn everything that the zoo in question knows, maybe at best one item could be learned. Also I'd want to limit this to once a day in real time on Franchise mode.
Absolutely.
Also, they would choose an amount of seed money too. The money, as do the animals, would belong to the franchise not the zoo. So the Franchise would likely share research, animals and (at least to start with) use Franchise money to get the zoo off the ground.
The only exception I expect would be for government research grants but that doesn't appear to be part of the game.
I am in agreeance with the OP; it's unrealistic to think that a franchise owner would open further zoos without the knowledge of what they learned in the first zoo; but I do like this suggestion. I can see that there is a risk that any zoo after the first would basically be sandbox and OP for management purposes, but having a reduced research time would fit the purpose. Or, even being able to bring staff from the original zoo with the increased experience to the new zoo to allow the quicker research. Using the experienced staff with any new venture is realistic after all.
So use this as its realistic to use experienced staff, but the millions/billions of pounds worth of research (in real terms) leave out as it might make subsequent zoos "be sandbox" (despite money still being part of the game)?
I'd rather see research being held at franchise level rather than moving staff around to "fake" knowledge sharing
I would be happy just to keep the building research and some of the basic infrastructure research. I'm happy to have to restart animal research ect. It is not unrealistic to share building and architecture knowledge between zoo's in the same franchise. Our three zoo's in Melbourne are all part of Zoo's Victoria and share info, research, designs and even animals. If we can share CC and animals it would not be a stretch to share some research.
I am a bit confused by this, what you describe is not unusual for multi zoo owners, but I can't understand why you would want to restart research or think that be realistic...
Here's a story, see if you spot the unlikely part
Zoo A: I am over 100 years old and considered one of the most famous zoos in the world
Zoo B: I am over 50 years old and have vast knowledge of certain species but I am intending to be a niche zoo
Company Z: I own Zoo A and Zoo B and wish to open Zoo C next year.
Company Z plan: As a company I have decided to show Zoo C how to build the best buildings and will move some top animals from Zoo A and Zoo B to Zoo C as part of the launch. However, under no circumstances will Zoo A or Zoo B tell Zoo C what these animals like or how to look after them!
Zoo C: Woohoo we're open! I have some of the rarest animals on the planet, awesome! Sh*t our Panda just died and the Orangutan's habitat was just destroyed by the Sumatran Rhino! and you won't believe what the Lion's did to my albino Water Buffalo!
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Sarcastic af but I think it illustrates my point
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The question is: What does the research actually represent?
In my opinion, it is:
a) The personal knowledge of the engineer in charge. Even if "Piotr" from Moscow has aquired the neccesary knowlede, "Juliet" in San Diego will have to learn everything by her own.
b) It's not so much a certain building style that is researched. Every zoo designer worth her/his money will have learned about the principles of Indian architecture at university (or wherever). Instead, It is much more about the necessity to find lokal providers of all the materials, of constructions in good quality but affordable price! No "Franchise Knowledge" will help with that; it will have to be done for every new zoo at every new location - over and over again!
The current implementation of research seems quite realistic!
In my opinion, it is:
a) The personal knowledge of the engineer in charge. Even if "Piotr" from Moscow has aquired the neccesary knowlede, "Juliet" in San Diego will have to learn everything by her own.
b) It's not so much a certain building style that is researched. Every zoo designer worth her/his money will have learned about the principles of Indian architecture at university (or wherever). Instead, It is much more about the necessity to find lokal providers of all the materials, of constructions in good quality but affordable price! No "Franchise Knowledge" will help with that; it will have to be done for every new zoo at every new location - over and over again!
The current implementation of research seems quite realistic!
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Interesting angle, so the research is about the staff knowledge... so what is the staff knowledge piece about ?
My thought is that the research unlocks the data/information in general terms (e.g. we know X, Y and Z about Snow Leopards) and then you train you staff to use that knowledge/wisdom.
Regardless of where you are or your capabilities, the information remains and doesn't need to be discovered each time.
My point of view is basically based on the dissertation, @dannydanbo has found and posted here.
Local vendors, zoo suppliers and construction companies seem to be a real thing of importance. The dissertation is mainly based on the Singapore zoo. But where to get all the neccesary material, if an european styled building should be build - something an European zoo would have easy access to?
Also, Hagenbeck's research on moat sizes is mentioned. But even if he tested the jumping capabilities of his animals, the results can only be a hint on what to expect. Origin of the animals (wild catches or breeded), the underground, the habitat design itself (are there slopes and if yes, in which direction?) - all these local factors have a huge impact! Knowledge simply can not be transfered from one zoo to another without any further work.
Local vendors, zoo suppliers and construction companies seem to be a real thing of importance. The dissertation is mainly based on the Singapore zoo. But where to get all the neccesary material, if an european styled building should be build - something an European zoo would have easy access to?
Also, Hagenbeck's research on moat sizes is mentioned. But even if he tested the jumping capabilities of his animals, the results can only be a hint on what to expect. Origin of the animals (wild catches or breeded), the underground, the habitat design itself (are there slopes and if yes, in which direction?) - all these local factors have a huge impact! Knowledge simply can not be transfered from one zoo to another without any further work.
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From a corporate standpoint, I see it this way: I am the CEO of a franchise. All of these zoos are my brand, owned by me. The things I create from research for my zoos is the corporate intellectual property, which is created by the individual researchers and owned by me. These are my parents and my research. I should be able to take this information and put it wherever I want because I am the CEO of the franchise and the IP belongs to the franchise.
why call it a franchise if it’s not meant to be connected between zoos? What is the connection besides the conservation points? I should be able to take my money and items with me across the world for everything I build.
it doesn’t make sense that the knowledge would only belong to the individual staff. If I fire them, the research isn’t lost, so it’s at least shared among staff. And if it’s shared among staff, I should know about it, and as the big cheese I am distributing this among my staff everywhere.
why call it a franchise if it’s not meant to be connected between zoos? What is the connection besides the conservation points? I should be able to take my money and items with me across the world for everything I build.
it doesn’t make sense that the knowledge would only belong to the individual staff. If I fire them, the research isn’t lost, so it’s at least shared among staff. And if it’s shared among staff, I should know about it, and as the big cheese I am distributing this among my staff everywhere.
I 100% agree. It doesn't make sense to have to re-research.
Animal personality and abilities vary from animal to animal so while one zoo may do research and learn that their hippo loves watermelon another zoo's hippo may hate it. I see the animal research as individual to that zoo's animals.
While it isn't what the OP is asking for here -- your advanced research bonus does carry between your franchise zoos. While you don't get the prior done research just instantly for free, the established zoo(s) will certainly help you to get through your own research faster to get up to the same page. With zoos being in varied and different regions and biomes it makes sense that the research that would have to be done would need to be applicable for the geographical location of said zoo. What works for a Zoo in Florida probably won't work for a Zoo in Siberia. But that doesn't mean they cannot consult and get assistance -- hence the research bonus.
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Ok well I see research as more to do with the species and think that is more likely how the game understands it too.
For example if you do research on 2 Tigers - Anna and Billy - and they die, the research standing doesn't drop at all