Hardware & Technical CH Fighterstick Vs Warthog (stick only): help me wasting my money.

Tarman

Tarman
Njos said:
Just ordered the CH Fighterstick. Only problem: this very morning the Pro Throttle went out of stock damnit.

Might consider buying it in the usa, I'd spend some 20-ish quids more for import fess and shipping. Meh I'll see if it comes back available in the next week.

Thanks to all ;)
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Glad we could help you waste your monies effectively, CMDR. Hope the stick is everything you need it to be.
 

Luceferous

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Good luck with the CH stuff. Assembled by idiots from components time-transported from the late 70s with a price tag as ridiculous as their aesthetics. Watch the movie WarGames again and you'll see a Fighterstick and Pro Throttle siting on Mathew Broderick's computer desk...probably. Ever looked inside a Pro Throttle or Stick? It's cave-painting engineering. The only reason CH isn't laughed off the market is because the other current offerings are so unreliable (and that includes the so-called mighty Warthog)....but at least they try to innovate now and again. CH designed this decades ago and just put their feet up. And pedals for Elite...pop on YouTube and watch a clip of Michael Flatley performing Riverdance. That's what you'll be doing under the desk as you lose every dogfight from now on...

Just saying ;-)
 

David Oliver

David Oliver
Luceferous said:
The only reason CH isn't laughed off the market is because the other current offerings are so unreliable (and that includes the so-called mighty Warthog)....but at least they try to innovate now and again.
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One of the main reasons I went with the CH stuff is the amount of usable buttons and the mini thumb joystick on the throttle which are available without moving the hand off the throttle itself, and I'd read that the ergonomics are good. For the first couple of days using it my left hand felt strained, but that stopped and I can use every input on it fine now. I expect I was holding it too tightly/wrong. I don't mind that the products and components are old designs and haven't been changed for decades if they do a good job and last well.

Why do you say they're assembled by idiots?
 
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brumster

brumster
Luceferous said:
Assembled by idiots from components time-transported from the late 70s with a price tag as ridiculous as their aesthetics.
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A button is a button; 20 years ago or today. Bar 3 potentiometers, that's all that's in the stick bar a few LEDs and USB interface. What more do you want? Since we all know the pots in the CH are high quality (mine crisp now as they day I bought it, knocking on for 15 years ago), how on earth is it relevant that a newer stick is automatically superior?

Ever looked inside a Pro Throttle or Stick?
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Err, yep, but fail to see how the inside of a joystick is remotely relevant. Some sensible moulding, screws, run of wires up the handle, lever system for the pots - simple. Like all good engineering.

The only reason CH isn't laughed off the market is because the other current offerings are so unreliable (and that includes the so-called mighty Warthog)....but at least they try to innovate now and again. CH designed this decades ago and just put their feet up.
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Well, sure, if your criteria for a stick are that it has to be less reliable than it's competitors, and has to prioritise form and innovation over function - if you're not interested in it giving you the best game experience, but want it to look good on your desk, have loads of whizz-bang lights and features that are next to useless in a specific use such as Elite, then go for it. Each to their own :)
 

Tarman

Tarman
Luceferous said:
Good luck with the CH stuff. Assembled by idiots from components time-transported from the late 70s with a price tag as ridiculous as their aesthetics. Watch the movie WarGames again and you'll see a Fighterstick and Pro Throttle siting on Mathew Broderick's computer desk...probably. Ever looked inside a Pro Throttle or Stick? It's cave-painting engineering. The only reason CH isn't laughed off the market is because the other current offerings are so unreliable (and that includes the so-called mighty Warthog)....but at least they try to innovate now and again. CH designed this decades ago and just put their feet up. And pedals for Elite...pop on YouTube and watch a clip of Michael Flatley performing Riverdance. That's what you'll be doing under the desk as you lose every dogfight from now on...

Just saying ;-)
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So you're saying they make stuff that's far more reliable than anything else on the market, but at least all the other crappier sticks look prettier. And a bunch of other nearly random words. It's almost like your post is irrelevant or something. Try to put in some facts or information next time, k?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it, especially if it hardly ever breaks. Sharks and ants don't evolve much because they already nailed optimal performance.
 

Scrogg

S
Luceferous said:
Good luck with the CH stuff. Assembled by idiots from components time-transported from the late 70s with a price tag as ridiculous as their aesthetics. Watch the movie WarGames again and you'll see a Fighterstick and Pro Throttle siting on Mathew Broderick's computer desk...probably. Ever looked inside a Pro Throttle or Stick? It's cave-painting engineering. The only reason CH isn't laughed off the market is because the other current offerings are so unreliable (and that includes the so-called mighty Warthog)....but at least they try to innovate now and again. CH designed this decades ago and just put their feet up. And pedals for Elite...pop on YouTube and watch a clip of Michael Flatley performing Riverdance. That's what you'll be doing under the desk as you lose every dogfight from now on...

Just saying ;-)
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So, I see you are a big proponent of........ of who's controllers exactly?

If you are gonna come on here and smack talk somebodies products then at least tell us an alternative that doesn't send you into such a rage. And preferably something that is available. I'd love to have a Black Mamba but last I looked they were still no longer being made.
 

Zenicetus

Zenicetus
In my experience, CH joysticks and throttles have been sturdy and trouble-free over many years of hard use in civilian and air combat flight sims. The designs are good, so they haven't required an update. I could critique a few things here and there with the button layout on the throttle, but it works well enough. For me, the CH gear is the best bang for buck in the middle price range of HOTAS gear.

The Warthog stick and throttle I'm using now has a higher level of build quality, and it's priced to match. I upgraded to the Warthog for the free-movement stick and larger number of switches under my fingers on both hands, not because I had any complaints about the CH gear I had been using for years.
 

Njos

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Luceferous said:
Good luck with the CH stuff. Assembled by idiots from components time-transported from the late 70s with a price tag as ridiculous as their aesthetics. Watch the movie WarGames again and you'll see a Fighterstick and Pro Throttle siting on Mathew Broderick's computer desk...probably. Ever looked inside a Pro Throttle or Stick? It's cave-painting engineering. The only reason CH isn't laughed off the market is because the other current offerings are so unreliable (and that includes the so-called mighty Warthog)....but at least they try to innovate now and again. CH designed this decades ago and just put their feet up. And pedals for Elite...pop on YouTube and watch a clip of Michael Flatley performing Riverdance. That's what you'll be doing under the desk as you lose every dogfight from now on...

Just saying ;-)
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I like retro gaming and retro peripherics :D

The fact that the so-called might warthog is as it is speaks volumes.

Pedals? Nah, don't need them ;-)
 

Keen

Keen
I ended up buying the Warthog when it was on sale at zackzack.de (Germany only) for 115 euros.

Currently using the throttle of the T.Flight Hotas X, but I'd prefer a CH Pro throttle. Just can't justify spending more on the throttle than on the stick.
 
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