Newcomer / Intro CH Pro Throttle Thrust problem

[Michael Corvinus]

Hi, I am new to Elite Dangerous and I have bought the CH Pro Throttle and Combat Stick. I have spent ages setting up the mapping etc, and I seem to be mostly there using various posts as guides.
However I have the biggest problem with the thrust.
The Pro Throttle does not have a centre point on the slide, it's just forward and back. So I have the throttle axis set at full range.
This allows me to go forward easily enough, but when I pull the throttle back hard whilst fighting to slow down and then push the lever forward again, I find that I am going full throttle in reverse. I have to push fully forward then slide almost to back before I can get forward thrust again.

Are there any Ch Pro Throttle users out there can tell me the binding setting in the options to solve this please? Also I read in a post somewhere that a player uses a button to switch to reverse, but I cannot see that option in the controls options.

 

[Shadowdancer]

 

[Michael Corvinus]

Thanks very much for the screenshot

 

[d8veh]

Wrong settings. Throttle axis range should be set to "full range". Forward only throttle reverse isn't used then.

Bind a key to zero throttle and another to 75%, which are both useful settings, though not 100% reliable.

 

[Michael Corvinus]

I am trying to get used to the CH Combat Stick and Pro Throttle. Another thing that I have noticed is that I have a big delay in the roll and pitch axis before my ship moves. I have to move the stick quite some way before the game picks up the movement. It makes fine aiming very difficult. It took me ages to even get into a station and then whilst trying to land, my ship shot off into reverse at almost full speed. Is there a way I can turn up the sensitivity in the game options?
I have used a thrustmaster hotasflight x for years, so I don't expect the CH products to feel the same, but christ are they difficult to use.

 

[Para Handy]

Wrong settings. Throttle axis range should be set to "full range". Forward only throttle reverse isn't used then.

Bind a key to zero throttle and another to 75%, which are both useful settings, though not 100% reliable.

Totally disagree - for me it is much more useful to have the CH Pro Throttle set to Forward Only and use the pinky button on it to switch to reverse and back. Making it full range leaves you with a non-specific zero-throttle centre point which (in my opinion) is daft for a HOTAS - YMMV.

 

[Zeeman]

I use full range, dead zone in the middle, and use the velcro mod, magnet mod, or whatever mod you can think of for the "centre detent".

Z...

 

[PyrateLV]

A little Velcro on the throttle slide makes a great center stop
Google - CM Pro Throttle Velcro Mod

 

[Nerwan]

A little Velcro on the throttle slide makes a great center stop
Google - CM Pro Throttle Velcro Mod

That's what I've been using on my CH throttle for the last 12 months, it's surprisingly durable and effective. I also have a small dead zone since the vecro isn't totally precise. It's actually a very acceptable solution and apart from the lack of a detent, the CH throttle is awesome.

 

[Michael Corvinus]

Thanks for all the help and advice on the throttle, it's getting better, so I'm looking forward to nailing it.
My next big problem is the lack of sensitivity of the joystick. I have to move the stick at least 45 degrees before I either roll or pitch. Not good when trying to land and aiming for the letterbox entrance of a station.

 

[PyrateLV]

That's what I've been using on my CH throttle for the last 12 months, it's surprisingly durable and effective. I also have a small dead zone since the vecro isn't totally precise. It's actually a very acceptable solution and apart from the lack of a detent, the CH throttle is awesome.

My only problem with the CH Pro Throttle has been that Mini-thumb stick. I want to use it as a 4-way, but Im a complete 'tard when it comes to code or script and cant seem to get it to function that way without b0rking the rest of my HOTAS controls.

- - - Updated - - -

Thanks for all the help and advice on the throttle, it's getting better, so I'm looking forward to nailing it.
My next big problem is the lack of sensitivity of the joystick. I have to move the stick at least 45 degrees before I either roll or pitch. Not good when trying to land and aiming for the letterbox entrance of a station.

Did you get the CH Control Manager program and configure through that or did you just set it up with Windows?
http://www.chproducts.com/13-29620-Downloads-and-Community-Links.php

 

[jgm]

Try feeding your binds to the reference sheet generator in my sig. It will pick up if you have any misconfigured controls.

 

[d8veh]

Totally disagree - for me it is much more useful to have the CH Pro Throttle set to Forward Only and use the pinky button on it to switch to reverse and back. Making it full range leaves you with a non-specific zero-throttle centre point which (in my opinion) is daft for a HOTAS - YMMV.

I'm not saying full range throttle is better or worse. I'm merely commenting on the button assignments. OP says, "So I have the throttle axis set at full range." He hasn't!

 

[Nerwan]

My only problem with the CH Pro Throttle has been that Mini-thumb stick. I want to use it as a 4-way, but Im a complete 'tard when it comes to code or script and cant seem to get it to function that way without b0rking the rest of my HOTAS controls.

You mean the little analog stick? I have that working. Unfortunately I can't remember exactly how I set it up. I know that I needed a little deadzone which I configured in the CH control manager. I use it for vertical/lateral thrust. The digital ones I have set up as extra buttons including one which I have linked to auto hotkey scripts..

 

[SeaFireliv]

I use a Sidewinder FF2 and a throttle quadrant. On the quadrant I have the throttle stick set on full range. A little sticker shows me exactly where zero is and reverse begins, works perfectly for me.

I tried the `Forward` only thrust and sticking Reverse on another throttle but that was horrible.

 

[Para Handy]

Surprised so many people are using the full-range - maybe because I am not really into combat I have not considered it. (BTW I see what you were saying now d8veh, sry.)

WRT the stick sensitivity - I was going to suggest returning the Combat stick and getting the Fighterstick (I use this) but I see that is now listed at a much higher price than before (thanks BREXIT?) - now almost twice the cost!

Assuming the same internals, you should not have such a poor response. Just calibrate the joystick in Windows and you should have a good response in E D, (I don't use the CH Control Manager at all), when in E D you can use a really small dead-zone in X and Y if you need - I didn't.

(I just checked again and I see that the Fighterstick is nowhere near as expensive on Amazon dot COM {$116} - so some sort of profiteering going on if you buy in the UK, bleeding rip-off.)

 

[Michael Corvinus]

I have used the calibration program from Ch and it works really well, it must be something that I am doing wrong with the ED control options. Could somebody post a picture of their roll and pitch options if possible?

 

[jgm]

I have used the calibration program from Ch and it works really well, it must be something that I am doing wrong with the ED control options. Could somebody post a picture of their roll and pitch options if possible?

Chances are you have configured digital controls instead of analogue. Try the link in my sig and see what it says; it will also give you details of how to fix it if that is the problem.

 

[Michael Corvinus]

Phew, I appear to have solved the problem, thanks to the good people on this forum. Although it was a bit emotional,b I did learn some very useful things. Especially how to find my bindings in the program files, copy them, give them a name and make them a dedicated set in my control options.
I was using "Custom" and it kept on dropping bindings, now I have a specific named set.

Once again, thanks all.

 

[the100thmonkey]

Thanks for all the help and advice on the throttle, it's getting better, so I'm looking forward to nailing it.
My next big problem is the lack of sensitivity of the joystick. I have to move the stick at least 45 degrees before I either roll or pitch. Not good when trying to land and aiming for the letterbox entrance of a station.

Sounds like you don't have the axis bound, and instead have the individual pitch buttons bound to axes.