Seems simple enough.
Change Earth's tag from "Earth-Like world" to simply "Earth"
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From earlier staff comments, not really simple since that would require introducing an entirely new type of planet, and all that for just one piece of rock in the entire universe.
Earth-like, means it is a planet like 'Earth' as in the name of our planet.
"Earth" alone would make no sense exploring wise, because those planets aren't earth.
Earth is Earth-like.
Mind. Blown.
How Very shakespearean...
Lepidus: What manner o' thing is your crocodile?
Antony: It is shap'd, sir, like itself, and it is as broad as it hath breadth; it is just as high as it is, and moves with its own organs. It lives by that which nourisheth it, and the elements once out of it, it transmigrates.
Lepidus: What color is it of?
Antony: Of its own color too.
Lepidus: 'Tis a strange serpent.
Antony: 'Tis so. And the tears of it are wet.
Mind. Blown.
How Very shakespearean...
Lepidus: What manner o' thing is your crocodile?
Antony: It is shap'd, sir, like itself, and it is as broad as it hath breadth; it is just as high as it is, and moves with its own organs. It lives by that which nourisheth it, and the elements once out of it, it transmigrates.
Lepidus: What color is it of?
Antony: Of its own color too.
Lepidus: 'Tis a strange serpent.
Antony: 'Tis so. And the tears of it are wet.
After 1,000 years of climate change "formerly earth-like" might be more accurate.
Don't forget the nuclear war. In lore we nuked the place pretty thoroughly too.
The earth is unique, it is our planet
Rafe Zetter
Banned
and?
It's our HOME PLANET - our progenitor; surely it deserves a bit more respect to have a few bits of time spent on it making it Unique, no?
Maybe it's a different mindset, the kind of difference between "it's only earth" compared to "it's The Earth".
Not really.
This...
Earth-like depends on your frame of reference and definition of both "Earth" and "like".
If Earth was hit by an asteroid and transformed into a volcanic hellscape would that mean every other ELW in the galaxy is no longer earth-like? Of course thats silly so logic concludes we don't have a moving reference point and therefore we pick a time/date/year to define what "Earth" is.
As Edith_The_Hutt pointed out the question is then: When was the reference point taken Earth?
Earth 500 years ago is vastly different to Earth now what with industrialisation, urbanisation, pollution, cities, deforestation, ice caps melting etc. If the reference point was say Earth 2017 today then yeah it's no longer Earth as it's been massively changed by nukes.
Anyhow, finally the question of defining "like". How loose is the definition. If all life on earth were wiped out would it still be Earth of would it not be Earth-like. If new species were introduced from other alien places would it still be Earth or now be Earth-like. etc etc etc.
I think it's within reasonable expectations that someone defined it early enough in history and tightly enough constrained that the Earth in 3303 is different enough from the reference point to no longer be validly defined as Earth.
I hope people can follow this. It's getting late and I have been drinking so... Cheers!
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I don't think a claim to naming conventions can be made, considering the definitions for planets (eg, clears out it's orbit, hydrostatic equilibrium) are arbitrary and only apply to our star and are violated regularly by looking over yonder.
After what we did to it, we're lucky we get to call it Earth like.
so you dont change anything on the backend and just update the clients to include a wrapper function in the 2 places that the type of planet is displayed, the system map and the cockpit. std::string getPlanetType(planetid) { if(planet[planetid].planetName == "Earth"){ return "Planet Earth"; } return planet[planetid].planetType;}
Now you dont have to worry about creating new planet types or dealing with them and the people who have strange forms of OCD can not create threads on the forum demanding meaningless changes to the game as if it would be something that would ever make it onto any kind of checklist for things needed for future releases.
Now you dont have to worry about creating new planet types or dealing with them and the people who have strange forms of OCD can not create threads on the forum demanding meaningless changes to the game as if it would be something that would ever make it onto any kind of checklist for things needed for future releases.
I think the OP is talking about SOL and that Earth is tagged with "Earth-like World"... Which I find a bit amusing and shouldn't be needed.
For exploring and finding a planet that is tagged as "Earth-like World", makes perfect sense, since it is suitable for human colonization and reference the planet that humans came from in the beginning.
Oh well.
For exploring and finding a planet that is tagged as "Earth-like World", makes perfect sense, since it is suitable for human colonization and reference the planet that humans came from in the beginning.
Oh well.
It's all to do with your ship's sensors and the planetary classifications they has been programmed with. Once a planet's environment falls within the fairly strict parameters required to classify it as "Earth-like", that is what it is labelled as.
Your ship's sensors are not sentient enough to recognize that the "Earth-like" planet you are looking at when you look at Sol 3 is actually the "Earth" from which the phrase "Earth-like world" is derived. You're the most sentient thing aboard your spaceship, it's your job to figure out these things.
It is also time-proof. Don't forget, according to current theories, for most of Earth's history, Earth itself was not "Earth-like": too hot, too cold, too much oxygen, too much carbon dioxide... and there is no guarantee that Earth will remain "Earth-like" forever, especially if one considers the possibility of hostile Alien incursion. It may be in FD's plans to take Earth and sterilize it, rendering it no longer "Earth-like".
Finally, of course, it would open the floodgates. Imperials would insist that their sensor suites report Capitol as "Capitol" rather than just another "Earth-like". The same with Turner's World (Alioth) and all the other popular capital planets. Soon the phrase "Earth-like" would lose it's usefulness as a definition as there would be so many special cases.
Your ship's sensors are not sentient enough to recognize that the "Earth-like" planet you are looking at when you look at Sol 3 is actually the "Earth" from which the phrase "Earth-like world" is derived. You're the most sentient thing aboard your spaceship, it's your job to figure out these things.
It is also time-proof. Don't forget, according to current theories, for most of Earth's history, Earth itself was not "Earth-like": too hot, too cold, too much oxygen, too much carbon dioxide... and there is no guarantee that Earth will remain "Earth-like" forever, especially if one considers the possibility of hostile Alien incursion. It may be in FD's plans to take Earth and sterilize it, rendering it no longer "Earth-like".
Finally, of course, it would open the floodgates. Imperials would insist that their sensor suites report Capitol as "Capitol" rather than just another "Earth-like". The same with Turner's World (Alioth) and all the other popular capital planets. Soon the phrase "Earth-like" would lose it's usefulness as a definition as there would be so many special cases.
Clearly the sensors aren't fooled by the familiar continent shapes. I was VERY disappointed when I finally got my Sol permit and got to Earth and saw this big ball of bland landmasses and featureless oceans. There's no color variation whatsoever. It's a travesty, accuracy-wise. How hard is it to slap some photorealistic textures onto a sphere?
Well, to be fair, they are presumably still wishing to eventually have an Earth we can land on. They need to find a way to do this that won't be the disappointment that flying around and landing on Earth was in the previous Elite games. So, no point in writing up something too complicated now, when they're just going to have to replace it again in a few years time when they get around to making Earth landable.
Maybe it's not an Earthlike Earth anymore? Charlie Chaplin once came 3rd in a Charlie-Chaplin-look-alike contest.