Newcomer / Intro Change is way discovering systems works?

[Kafka1]

I've been away from ED for a few months, come back today, updated and continued my yomp to Beagle.

I'm pretty sure that before, when I honked a system and discovered belts, planets etc within the system, they would show up straight away in the navigation menu on the left screen and also in the system map.

Now it seems only the star shows until I FSS a planet, then it will show up on both.

Unless I've forgotten how to do something, which is quite possible, but it doesn't seem to work as I remember it.

Also my fire groups had dissapeared.

Filters are set to show everything on the Nav menu.

 

[Zieman]

I'm pretty sure that before, when I honked a system and discovered belts, planets etc within the system, they would show up straight away in the navigation menu on the left screen and also in the system map.

Now it seems only the star shows until I FSS a planet, then it will show up on both.

Unless I've forgotten how to do something, which is quite possible, but it douesn't seem to work as I remember it.

That was a bit over 3 years ago.
When FSS came about, it changed to the way you describe, in pristine systems.
In already explored ones the honk shows those bodies that were found (& data sold) before you arrived.

 

[Speedcuffs]

Reset all your fire groups, then try it.
Fire groups was messed up on one of the updates.

 

[Kafka1]

That was a bit over 3 years ago.
When FSS came about, it changed to the way you describe, in pristine systems.
In already explored ones the honk shows those bodies that were found (& data sold) before you arrived.

Ah OK thanks - yes, I'm probably in unexplored space
Time to get my name on then - for what it's worth

 

[Kafka1]

Reset all your fire groups, then try it.
Fire groups was messed up on one of the updates.

OK thanks - I'm doing that now.

 

[CaptKarel]

Something I noticed by observation, but my conductive reasoning may be wrong.

If you honk a system and it has been discovered by another Cmdr before but not you, it will show as a list of unexplored items.

If you are the first, it will only show the items you have discovered, and if it is only the sun, then there will be no list but the sun. I then use the FSS to “discover” all the bodies in that system. In the bubble you could the Nav Beacon also.

Sometimes if some of the names are there and some are undiscovered you may have visited and “discovered” some bodies by flying there or close by to those bodies.

In some very rare cases even if you have not been to that system all the names are shown as discovered. Not sure why this happens, maybe if you bought the exploration data or trade data, it is a popular system, or the data was shared by you squadron. However it has happened a few times to me and even my alt account picked up a few system’s data where I was sure I did not visit with that account before. Or I have just a bad memory and can’t remember visiting a specific system.

O7

 

[Para Handy]

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In some very rare cases even if you have not been to that system all the names are shown as discovered. Not sure why this happens, maybe if you bought the exploration data or trade data, it is a popular system, or the data was shared by you squadron. However it has happened a few times to me and even my alt account picked up a few system’s data where I was sure I did not visit with that account before. Or I have just a bad memory and can’t remember visiting a specific system.
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Not particularly rare but this is the case for certain systems which in the pre-FSS days were always "known" to your nav computer. Systems over a certain population figure were not listed as unknown or unexplored and you could examine their system map via the galaxy map even if you had not been there. For some reason after they introduced the FSS system all these "pre-known" systems suddenly became "unknown" on the galaxy map until you jumped-in to them at which point the complete system info was available to you. I never saw an explanation for why they made that change.

So, in short, certain large population systems are pre-known to your nav computer but are now "hidden (unknown)" until you go there.

 

[CaptKarel]

Not particularly rare but this is the case for certain systems which in the pre-FSS days were always "known" to your nav computer. Systems over a certain population figure were not listed as unknown or unexplored and you could examine their system map via the galaxy map even if you had not been there. For some reason after they introduced the FSS system all these "pre-known" systems suddenly became "unknown" on the galaxy map until you jumped-in to them at which point the complete system info was available to you. I never saw an explanation for why they made that change.

So, in short, certain large population systems are pre-known to your nav computer but are now "hidden (unknown)" until you go there.

Thanks Para Handy, that explains why some systems come up as known, even though I haven't been there before.