Characteristically Unique Dinosaur Suggestions for JWE3

I know it’s always nice to see your favourites get added, but we’re only going to get a limited number of additions, and sometimes a lot of people ask for species that are very similar to those already in the game. I’m guilty of this, I’d love to see Neovenator, but functionally it’s quite similar to a number of medium carnivores we already have. So I thought I’d make a list of additions that I personally think are characteristically unique enough to justify inclusion. This list will focus on dinosaurs because they make the bulk of the roster. I know a lot of people are asking for more Cenozoic species and terrestrial non-dinosaurian archosaurs, I’m not going to include those because if they do add a few, they are obviously going to be inherently unique to the rest of the roster anyway. Lastly, many of these would need new rigs most likely, so I’m not expecting even a fraction of these to be added, especially with Frontier opening Pandora’s box by adding juveniles. Adding new species is going to be more work for them than ever, I just wanted to make this list to show there’s a high diversity not yet present in the game.

Last time I made a thread like this we accidentally predicted the feathered species DLC so I’d be curious to see if some of these are announced in the coming weeks.

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Psittacosaurus - Long overdue. Frontier has shown they can implement dinosaurs that we have a very good real-world image of with Sinosauropteryx, so I know they’d be more than capable of making a brilliant Psittacosaurus. This is the most well understood dinosaur, and maybe the only one in which we know almost exactly what it looked like inside and out. Could possibly work well using the same rig as Microceratus so it’s a no brainer. I did also have Protoceratops on here but the next day they announced the game with it included in the deluxe pack, and it looks great.



Plateosaurus and sauropodomorphs in general - Currently the game has zero non-sauropodan sauropodomorphs. To me, Plateosaurus is an obvious choice. Arguably the fourth dinosaur species ever discovered with now over a hundred individuals, it certainly isn’t as famous as it ought to be. I think another sauropodomorph could also be good, Aardonyx or Massospondylus would be my choice.



Oxalaia - Hear me out. I am of the school of thought that Oxalaia is most likely not distinct from Spinosaurus. However, adding Oxalaia could be the excuse to add the up-to-date scientifically informed Spinosaurus some of us have dreamt of. It would be perfect with the swimming in the game as well now. I think similarly, Ceratosuchops, Riparovenator or even Suchosaurus can be used to get a better Baryonyx.



A “Typical” Abelisaur - We do have abelisaurs in the game, but the Carnotaurus is the JW design so they’ve un-stubbified it for no reason, and Majungasaurus is very uniquely Majungasaurus, it doesn’t fit the typical expectation of an abelisaur. There’s a number of options here. If you want a true brachyrostran, I think Skorpiovenator is a popular choice, otherwise I think Rugops is a good fit.



A Heterodontosaur - Another unique group that is completely unrepresented. These are bizarre and would make a very unique addition. Heterodontosaurus itself would be good choice, but Pegomastax is also very popular.



A Smaller Dromaeosaur - These guys are victims of the JW franchise making all dromaeosaurs bigger. Plenty of good options left though. Acheroraptor, Saurornitholestes, Dromaeosaurus or even something like Tsagaan. Maybe an oddball as well, I love Buitreraptor.



Halszkaraptor - With the new water mechanics, it would be a crime not to add Halszkaraptor.



Scelidosaurus - I haven’t put too many lone oddballs in this list because it would go on and on, but I think Scelidosaurus gets seniority privilege here. England is getting a bit cramped on the dig site map but Scelidosaurus is worth it. There aren’t many others like it.



Hypsilophodon - A tiny ornithischian would be great. Hypsilophodon is maybe the most famous, and will go in the Isle of Wight dig site node so it won’t make the map in England any messier. Alternatively, I think the other obvious choice is Kulindadromeus, famous for its implications on ornithischian integument.



Alvarezsaurids - We don’t have any alvarezsaurs currently. This one could maybe be split in two, with a “true” alvarezsaur like Alvarezsaurus itself, and then separately a mononykine like Mononykus. I think Mononykus or Linhenykus are too good to pass up regardless, that single digit claw puts them near the top of the list as far as uniqueness is concerned.



A Larger Megaraptoran - These are dodgy, it really is hard to place them and be confident that they’ll remain what you think they are, let alone reconstruct them, but larger theropods with larger forelimbs are enticing. We do already have Australovenator, so a larger one like Maip or Megaraptor are the best picks.



Oryctodromeus - I included this one simply because of its potential as a game mechanic. They were found to likely be burrowers. There are a number of things you can do with that in terms of game design to shake things up.



A Noasaur - No need to beat around the bush here, I think the obvious choices are Elaphrosaurus and Masiakasaurus.



There are obviously going to be more that didn’t spring to mind so please contribute if you’re reading this. There’s no shortage of choices for the lagoon and aviary species either, too many to close the gap on in fact. But I would like to see a couple more Solnhofen species like Rhamphorhynchus and Pterodactylus. More than either of those, a Ctenochasmatid would be my number one requested pterosaur, probably Pterodaustro.
 
I know it’s always nice to see your favourites get added, but we’re only going to get a limited number of additions, and sometimes a lot of people ask for species that are very similar to those already in the game. I’m guilty of this, I’d love to see Neovenator, but functionally it’s quite similar to a number of medium carnivores we already have. So I thought I’d make a list of additions that I personally think are characteristically unique enough to justify inclusion. This list will focus on dinosaurs because they make the bulk of the roster. I know a lot of people are asking for more Cenozoic species and terrestrial non-dinosaurian archosaurs, I’m not going to include those because if they do add a few, they are obviously going to be inherently unique to the rest of the roster anyway. Lastly, many of these would need new rigs most likely, so I’m not expecting even a fraction of these to be added, especially with Frontier opening Pandora’s box by adding juveniles. Adding new species is going to be more work for them than ever, I just wanted to make this list to show there’s a high diversity not yet present in the game.

Last time I made a thread like this we accidentally predicted the feathered species DLC so I’d be curious to see if some of these are announced in the coming weeks.

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Psittacosaurus - Long overdue. Frontier has shown they can implement dinosaurs that we have a very good real-world image of with Sinosauropteryx, so I know they’d be more than capable of making a brilliant Psittacosaurus. This is the most well understood dinosaur, and maybe the only one in which we know almost exactly what it looked like inside and out. Could possibly work well using the same rig as Microceratus so it’s a no brainer. I did also have Protoceratops on here but the next day they announced the game with it included in the deluxe pack, and it looks great.



Plateosaurus and sauropodomorphs in general - Currently the game has zero non-sauropodan sauropodomorphs. To me, Plateosaurus is an obvious choice. Arguably the fourth dinosaur species ever discovered with now over a hundred individuals, it certainly isn’t as famous as it ought to be. I think another sauropodomorph could also be good, Aardonyx or Massospondylus would be my choice.



Oxalaia - Hear me out. I am of the school of thought that Oxalaia is most likely not distinct from Spinosaurus. However, adding Oxalaia could be the excuse to add the up-to-date scientifically informed Spinosaurus some of us have dreamt of. It would be perfect with the swimming in the game as well now. I think similarly, Ceratosuchops, Riparovenator or even Suchosaurus can be used to get a better Baryonyx.



A “Typical” Abelisaur - We do have abelisaurs in the game, but the Carnotaurus is the JW design so they’ve un-stubbified it for no reason, and Majungasaurus is very uniquely Majungasaurus, it doesn’t fit the typical expectation of an abelisaur. There’s a number of options here. If you want a true brachyrostran, I think Skorpiovenator is a popular choice, otherwise I think Rugops is a good fit.



A Heterodontosaur - Another unique group that is completely unrepresented. These are bizarre and would make a very unique addition. Heterodontosaurus itself would be good choice, but Pegomastax is also very popular.



A Smaller Dromaeosaur - These guys are victims of the JW franchise making all dromaeosaurs bigger. Plenty of good options left though. Acheroraptor, Saurornitholestes, Dromaeosaurus or even something like Tsagaan. Maybe an oddball as well, I love Buitreraptor.



Halszkaraptor - With the new water mechanics, it would be a crime not to add Halszkaraptor.



Scelidosaurus - I haven’t put too many lone oddballs in this list because it would go on and on, but I think Scelidosaurus gets seniority privilege here. England is getting a bit cramped on the dig site map but Scelidosaurus is worth it. There aren’t many others like it.



Hypsilophodon - A tiny ornithischian would be great. Hypsilophodon is maybe the most famous, and will go in the Isle of Wight dig site node so it won’t make the map in England any messier. Alternatively, I think the other obvious choice is Kulindadromeus, famous for its implications on ornithischian integument.



Alvarezsaurids - We don’t have any alvarezsaurs currently. This one could maybe be split in two, with a “true” alvarezsaur like Alvarezsaurus itself, and then separately a mononykine like Mononykus. I think Mononykus or Linhenykus are too good to pass up regardless, that single digit claw puts them near the top of the list as far as uniqueness is concerned.



A Larger Megaraptoran - These are dodgy, it really is hard to place them and be confident that they’ll remain what you think they are, let alone reconstruct them, but larger theropods with larger forelimbs are enticing. We do already have Australovenator, so a larger one like Maip or Megaraptor are the best picks.



Oryctodromeus - I included this one simply because of its potential as a game mechanic. They were found to likely be burrowers. There are a number of things you can do with that in terms of game design to shake things up.



A Noasaur - No need to beat around the bush here, I think the obvious choices are Elaphrosaurus and Masiakasaurus.



There are obviously going to be more that didn’t spring to mind so please contribute if you’re reading this. There’s no shortage of choices for the lagoon and aviary species either, too many to close the gap on in fact. But I would like to see a couple more Solnhofen species like Rhamphorhynchus and Pterodactylus. More than either of those, a Ctenochasmatid would be my number one requested pterosaur, probably Pterodaustro.

Hypsilophodon appeared in the original novel version of The Lost World: Jurassic Park.

Both Plateosaurus and Psittacosaurus will be added in future DLCs of the new game.
 
Psittacosaurus - Long overdue. Frontier has shown they can implement dinosaurs that we have a very good real-world image of with Sinosauropteryx, so I know they’d be more than capable of making a brilliant Psittacosaurus. This is the most well understood dinosaur, and maybe the only one in which we know almost exactly what it looked like inside and out. Could possibly work well using the same rig as Microceratus so it’s a no brainer. I did also have Protoceratops on here but the next day they announced the game with it included in the deluxe pack, and it looks great.
Would be cool, even if things like Protoceratops and Aquilops are stealing its thunder... another good choice for the Yixian formation, which at the moment is only represented by predators.

Plateosaurus and sauropodomorphs in general - Currently the game has zero non-sauropodan sauropodomorphs. To me, Plateosaurus is an obvious choice. Arguably the fourth dinosaur species ever discovered with now over a hundred individuals, it certainly isn’t as famous as it ought to be. I think another sauropodomorph could also be good, Aardonyx or Massospondylus would be my choice.
Plateosaurus remains one of the most mysterious omissions to the game... Massospondylus would be another great choice, being a solid representative of the group and one of the few prosauropods known to coexist with other well-known animals.

Oxalaia - Hear me out. I am of the school of thought that Oxalaia is most likely not distinct from Spinosaurus. However, adding Oxalaia could be the excuse to add the up-to-date scientifically informed Spinosaurus some of us have dreamt of. It would be perfect with the swimming in the game as well now. I think similarly, Ceratosuchops, Riparovenator or even Suchosaurus can be used to get a better Baryonyx.
Hate it, hate it, hate it... seriously, the whole idea of weaseling some scrappy nothing into the game--in this case a random spinosaur known only from the tip of a snout--on the basis of making it some realistic alternative is one of my most loathed of ideas... this isn't fixing anything, it's just making more problems!

A “Typical” Abelisaur - We do have abelisaurs in the game, but the Carnotaurus is the JW design so they’ve un-stubbified it for no reason, and Majungasaurus is very uniquely Majungasaurus, it doesn’t fit the typical expectation of an abelisaur. There’s a number of options here. If you want a true brachyrostran, I think Skorpiovenator is a popular choice, otherwise I think Rugops is a good fit.
Meh... Majungasaurus is "normal" enough... I'd sooner have something like Spectrovenator, the small and primitive abelisaur...

A Heterodontosaur - Another unique group that is completely unrepresented. These are bizarre and would make a very unique addition. Heterodontosaurus itself would be good choice, but Pegomastax is also very popular.
Heterodontosaurus would be the best choice; it's the first and most well known... and if the decision to give Protoceratops quills are anything to go by, they'd slap some Pegomastax quills onto their design.

A Smaller Dromaeosaur - These guys are victims of the JW franchise making all dromaeosaurs bigger. Plenty of good options left though. Acheroraptor, Saurornitholestes, Dromaeosaurus or even something like Tsagaan. Maybe an oddball as well, I love Buitreraptor.
No, what they need to do is give Deinonychus a proper redesign... the actually animal is half as tall as the one in JWE.

Halszkaraptor - With the new water mechanics, it would be a crime not to add Halszkaraptor.
Hmm... definitely an interesting possibility...

Scelidosaurus - I haven’t put too many lone oddballs in this list because it would go on and on, but I think Scelidosaurus gets seniority privilege here. England is getting a bit cramped on the dig site map but Scelidosaurus is worth it. There aren’t many others like it.
Definitely an essential addition... I think the real oddity here is how dig sites are handles in JWE2; despite what it says in game, Scelidosaurus, along with Dimorphodon, Ichthyosaurus, Plesiosaurus and Attenborosaurus can all be found in the Charmouth Mudstone Formation.

Hypsilophodon - A tiny ornithischian would be great. Hypsilophodon is maybe the most famous, and will go in the Isle of Wight dig site node so it won’t make the map in England any messier. Alternatively, I think the other obvious choice is Kulindadromeus, famous for its implications on ornithischian integument.
Not sure I'd call them unique, but Hypsilophodon would certainly go great with our Iguanodon and Polacanthus.

Alvarezsaurids - We don’t have any alvarezsaurs currently. This one could maybe be split in two, with a “true” alvarezsaur like Alvarezsaurus itself, and then separately a mononykine like Mononykus. I think Mononykus or Linhenykus are too good to pass up regardless, that single digit claw puts them near the top of the list as far as uniqueness is concerned.
Mononykus would be great... another interesting possibility would be Haplocheirus, a primitive alvarezsaur from Jurassic period China.

A Larger Megaraptoran - These are dodgy, it really is hard to place them and be confident that they’ll remain what you think they are, let alone reconstruct them, but larger theropods with larger forelimbs are enticing. We do already have Australovenator, so a larger one like Maip or Megaraptor are the best picks.
(Shrugs) Other than being bigger, I'm not sure how different they'd be...

Oryctodromeus - I included this one simply because of its potential as a game mechanic. They were found to likely be burrowers. There are a number of things you can do with that in terms of game design to shake things up.
Sigh... this would be cool if burrowing was more than just the rabbit hole thing Prarie Dogs use in Planet Zoo... but somehow, I suspect that's all it would be...

A Noasaur - No need to beat around the bush here, I think the obvious choices are Elaphrosaurus and Masiakasaurus.
Masiakasaurus would be the most unique... on the other hand, Elaphrosaurus would pair well with out Kentrosaurus.

There are obviously going to be more that didn’t spring to mind so please contribute if you’re reading this. There’s no shortage of choices for the lagoon and aviary species either, too many to close the gap on in fact. But I would like to see a couple more Solnhofen species like Rhamphorhynchus and Pterodactylus. More than either of those, a Ctenochasmatid would be my number one requested pterosaur, probably Pterodaustro.
Caudipteryx - a primitive oviraptor from the Yixian Formation; looks almost like a modern turkey.

Ichthyovenator - a rare example of a well-known spinosaur, as oppose to bits of skull and teeth; enough material has been recovered to show it had a crazy looking sail.

Mymoorapelta - one of the earliest nodosaurs, comes from the Morrison Formation.

Shunosaurus - the original club-tailed sauropod... a friend for our Huayangosaurus.

Simosuchus - a terrestrial crocodile that ate plants; cute as a reptilian puppy.

Yi - the "bat/dragon" dinosaur... a very unique aviary addition...

Both Plateosaurus and Psittacosaurus will be added in future DLCs of the new game.
Are you saying this because you know something? ...or are you just saying what you want to hear?
 
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Would be cool, even if things like Protoceratops and Aquilops are stealing its thunder... another good choice for the Yixian formation, which at the moment is only represented by predators.


Plateosaurus remains one of the most mysterious omissions to the game... Massospondylus would be another great choice, being a solid representative of the group and one of the few prosauropods known to coexist with other well-known animals.


Hate it, hate it, hate it... seriously, the whole idea of weaseling some scrappy nothing into the game--in this case a random spinosaur known only from the tip of a snout--on the basis of making it some realistic alternative is one of my most loathed of ideas... this isn't fixing anything, it's just making more problems!


Meh... Majungasaurus is "normal" enough... I'd sooner have something like Spectrovenator, the small and primitive abelisaur...


Heterodontosaurus would be the best choice; it's the first and most well known... and if the decision to give Protoceratops quills are anything to go by, they'd slap some Pegomastax quills onto their design.


No, what they need to do is give Deinonychus a proper redesign... the actually animal is half as tall as the one in JWE.


Hmm... definitely an interesting possibility...


Definitely an essential addition... I think the real oddity here is how dig sites are handles in JWE2; despite what it says in game, Scelidosaurus, along with Dimorphodon, Ichthyosaurus, Plesiosaurus and Attenborosaurus can all be found in the Charmouth Mudstone Formation.


Not sure I'd call them unique, but Hypsilophodon would certainly go great with our Iguanodon and Polacanthus.


Mononykus would be great... another interesting possibility would be Haplocheirus, a primitive alvarezsaur from Jurassic period China.


(Shrugs) Other than being bigger, I'm not sure how different they'd be...


Sigh... this would be cool if burrowing was more than just the rabbit hole thing Prarie Dogs use in Planet Zoo... but somehow, I suspect that's all it would be...


Masiakasaurus would be the most unique... on the other hand, Elaphrosaurus would pair well with out Kentrosaurus.


Caudipteryx - a primitive oviraptor from the Yixian Formation; looks almost like a modern turkey.

Ichthyovenator - a rare example of a well-known spinosaur, as oppose to bits of skull and teeth; enough material has been recovered to show it had a crazy looking sail.

Mymoorapelta - one of the earliest nodosaurs, comes from the Morrison Formation.

Shunosaurus - the original club-tailed sauropod... a friend for our Huayangosaurus.

Simosuchus - a terrestrial crocodile that ate plants; cute as a reptilian puppy.

Yi - the "bat/dragon" dinosaur... a very unique aviary addition...


Are you saying this because you know something? ...or are you just saying what you want to hear?
You make some good points here.

For the record, again, I don’t consider Oxalaia to be a valid taxon. I’m just that desperate for the Spinosaurus to be treated properly in any way possible, though I understand a lot feel it’s not worth the time. As for the precedent for including fragmentary taxa, you’ll see in this list that I included a lot of the better represented species for their groups where possible, megaraptora not withstanding. That being said, there are a lot of fragmentary taxa included in the franchise that frankly have bewildered me as well, I love their Metriacanthosaurus design but it’s obvious it was chosen merely because it was name to fill out a prop in the film, not an easy animal to design beyond that, my thought was that they should have gone with Yangchuanosaurus and kept the design, I realise that’s not Frontier’s call, however.

I don’t necessarily think Protoceratops would steal Psittacosaurus’ thunder. Aside from having a fairly differently articulated bauplan, it also has its own historical cred. Functionally, again it’s more likely to be interchangeable with Microceratus.

I want them to give the Deinonychus a redesign, but there’s no precedent for them doing major redesigns so I’ve not really thought about it. That being said, I stand by my want for a small velociraptorine or saurornitholestine.

The dig sites are handled inconsistently, in some ways that’s unavoidable, but like you said they could absolutely fold the Dorset nodes into one rather than separating them into localities. The game has an odd mix of geological groups, formations, members and vague localities, I don’t think they could reasonably standardise it. You do have vagueities like the Kem Kem Group where the comprising formations are not always clear-cut or relevant thus making it more sensible to JUST call it the Kem Kem, juxtaposed with nodes like Hell Creek and Judith River which are formations, where you want them to be distinct because they are each respectively faunally dense. It’s a tricky thing to balance for sure.

My justification for megaraptora is that Frontier are going to add large or medium theropods anyway. In the name of at least doing something visually different from what they’ve already done, megaraptora is a good thread to pull because they are at least proportionally strange.

I say Hypsilophodon would be unique specifically in the game. Similarly sized species we have now are all theropods and marginocephalians.

Yi qi would be great, there is of course also Ambopteryx now if Frontier want to be different. Putting scansoriopterygids or more derived paraves in the aviary is actually a pretty brilliant idea. I’m a big fan of Ichthyovenator as choice, it would fit well, we don’t yet have a spinosaurine that isn’t Spinosaurus, and one could argue that isn’t good representation. Caudipteryx is good, I thought I’d put it in here but must have forgot, I originally had Nomingia which similarly has a pseudo-pygostyle.
 
I want them to give the Deinonychus a redesign, but there’s no precedent for them doing major redesigns so I’ve not really thought about it. That being said, I stand by my want for a small velociraptorine or saurornitholestine.
They completely redesigned Ankylodocus... and since many animals are getting cut and likely to be added later, seems a good chance to do the same for them.
 
They completely redesigned Ankylodocus... and since many animals are getting cut and likely to be added later, seems a good chance to do the same for them.
You’re right I forgot about that. If ever it were obvious that I don’t like the hybrids. The design is conceptually the same between the two though, it’s really just a better do-over of the same design. They’d have to change far more for the Deinonychus. I do of course wish they would do it.

Some animals are getting cut, I’m curious to know which ones. I thought originally that adding juveniles was going to be this monkey’s paw that got half the roster reset, but the Steam page mentions “over 80 awe-inspiring pre-historic species” so it’s likely not really that many, which begs the question of how they decided what goes. I imagine some of the hybrids got the axe again. Then again I have this vague memory of JWE2’s promotional material lowballing the number as well. So it’s possible almost all do make it back in, I just have trouble imagining it with the new system.
 
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Plateosaurus remains one of the most mysterious omissions to the game... Massospondylus would be another great choice, being a solid representative of the group and one of the few prosauropods known to coexist with other well-known animals.

Are you saying this because you know something? ...or are you just saying what you want to hear?

Jurassic World: Evolution 3 is what Frontier is working on. There is time to catch up to Prehistoric Planet.
 
I imagine some of the hybrids got the axe again.
Ugh... I'd hate it if that happened... making the same animals paid DLC three times? Might also confirm my worst suspicions... that the unbreedable animals include tiny animals like Compsognathus because "the babies are too tiny" as if the adults weren't already in that way.

Curiously, the official website states "featuring over 70 prehistoric family units"... begs the question; does "prehistoric" mean "non-hybrids".

Then again I have this vague memory of JWE2’s promotional material lowballing the number as well. So it’s possible almost all do make it back in, I just have trouble imagining it with the new system.
Even if the give numbers are lower than the final count, we're looking at 40 animals cut from the roster... likely more if the claim of new additions is accurate... I severely doubt it's possible almost all do make it back...

Jurassic World: Evolution 3 is what Frontier is working on. There is time to catch up to Prehistoric Planet.
Uhh... could you be a little less cryptic?
 
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Jurassic World: Evolution 3 is what Frontier is working on. There is time to catch up to Prehistoric Planet.
They’re not going to include every single species that’s featured in a separate IP if that’s what you mean. It might give them ideas, and I have a hunch it did for a lot of their feathered additions. They’re not going to follow it all the way. If Plateosaurus and Psittacosaurus get added, it’s because of their importance to dinosaurs as a whole.

It just occurred to me that you might mean Prehistoric Kingdom, not Planet. Seeing as those two weren’t in the latter. I think regardless of what the other games are doing, those two are arguably two of the most occurrent genera in pop-culture and scientific literature respectively (at least among those that haven’t been added), so I don’t think their presence in the other game would affect their odds either way. Honestly, Psittacosaurus is so omnipresent, I feel like it’s just bad luck that it hasn’t made the roster list. It almost certainly must have came up when they’ve been discussing what to add for any of the titles.
 
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