Cheaters are Everywhere

[Blood Lust]

Hi All

When fighting against other players have you discovered you cannot damage their hull? or you cannot get their hull below a certain percentage? or you cannot get rid of their shields? or they never seem to run out of energy for their weapons? Or despite the craft you're fighting against with its possible load-outs your weapons seem weaker than usual against it?
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Or maybe you have noticed a human player sat in a conflict zone or navigation beacon with turreted weapons who never seems to move his ship? It just automatically blasts and blasts for hours and hours with there being no indication there's a conscious pilot behind it?
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There is a very nasty website out there which has figured out this is only a part-online game. A lot of files which can be hacked to cheat are kept on our side. What is disgusting is it has over 100 pages of user debate and contribution from people who are obviously playing this game. I think we need to stop this out. We need to start noting the names of players which seem to be using exploits and reporting them for investigation.

 

[Zplintz]

Not sure building ship tough enough to sit in space shooting anything hostile while afk is necessarily cheating. It is exploiting game mechanics. If you think they aren't currently piloted, why not try shooting one for a while and see what happens?

 

[Huita]

Yeah, go ahead and stop the cheaters in p2p game... in solo, no less, where noone can see and report them.

 

[Blood Lust]

Not sure building ship tough enough to sit in space shooting anything hostile while afk is necessarily cheating. It is exploiting game mechanics. If you think they aren't currently piloted, why not try shooting one for a while and see what happens?

The website gives the programming for power, shields and hull which remain at 100% forever. It advises people using it to sit their ship in the middle of a conflict zone (or similar) with turreted weapons and leave the game on overnight. It explains how there is low risk of being caught.
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It gives higher risk cheats too. It explains how to get more than one instance of your game running and to do the above with each one.

 

[catanonia]

The website gives the programming for power, shields and hull which remain at 100% forever. It advises people using it to sit their ship in the middle of a conflict zone (or similar) with turreted weapons and leave the game on overnight. It explains how there is low risk of being caught.
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It gives higher risk cheats too. It explains how to get more than one instance of your game running and to do the above with each one.

yup and it has been going on for ages since they figured it was P2P architecture with client files.

One of the reasons I refuse to go into Open as I don't want my limited pleasure time ruined by kiddies and cheaters who will not get punished or stopped. I am an old boy Elite 84'er and solo mode suits me just fine.

 

[dognosh]

The website gives the programming for power, shields and hull which remain at 100% forever. It advises people using it to sit their ship in the middle of a conflict zone (or similar) with turreted weapons and leave the game on overnight. It explains how there is low risk of being caught.
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It gives higher risk cheats too. It explains how to get more than one instance of your game running and to do the above with each one.

I have seen that thread, I have read it and though a programmer, I am not even 1% tempted to try any of them. I will not spoil my game for a bit of cheating, and I will hazard a guess 99.99% of other pilots are the same as me

 

[Zieman]

You should PM the link to devs, so they become aware in which ways people cheat and may be able to do something about the cheating.

 

[Caspar]

If these are file hacks, FD need to run a diff check against key files and then kick the client on a mismatch. Should be simple.

 

[Blood Lust]

I have seen that thread, I have read it and though a programmer, I am not even 1% tempted to try any of them. I will not spoil my game for a bit of cheating, and I will hazard a guess 99.99% of other pilots are the same as me

What is bad is that many of the people on its forums go on about how they have done this and that in their anacondas, and other fancy spaceships, using the cheats.

 

[Bobo]

All games have sad little hackers and script kiddies. Probably best to try to forget about it. The only thing you can do if you get into combat with a script kiddie is combat log, crappy tactic but not much else you can do.

On the up side tho, all these hacks are detailed and there for anyone to see, so hopefuly this makes the devs job easyer when it comes to weeding them out

 

[Steve50]

I don't understand why they waste time cheating. There's no 'end game' here so no real point in cheating.

 

[AnnuverScotinExile]

You should PM the link to devs, so they become aware in which ways people cheat and may be able to do something about the cheating.

FD have known about most of this stuff since the alpha - that's when we had the first hackers. You would have thought that if they were going to do anything about it they would have started by now.

 

[Whiterose]

Looks like I am going to have to arm my ship with the spanking bat.....

 

[Zieman]

FD have known about most of this stuff since the alpha - that's when we had the first hackers. You would have thought that if they were going to do anything about it they would have started by now.

<sigh> Yeah, true that. Oh well, one big bunch of reasons more to stay in private/solo then.

 

[Battleship Kickass]

yup and it has been going on for ages since they figured it was P2P architecture with client files.

One of the reasons I refuse to go into Open as I don't want my limited pleasure time ruined by kiddies and cheaters who will not get punished or stopped. I am an old boy Elite 84'er and solo mode suits me just fine.

Using the possibility of cheaters as a reason to not play open is ridiculous. You must avoid any multiplayer game as well then.

 

[Komemiute]

I don't understand why they waste time cheating. There's no 'end game' here so no real point in cheating.

Earning the abitious title of Elite.

Sadly Elite rank has lost its meaning to me.
It still is a state of mind- and no one can take that away from me.

I am Elite.

 

[TriumphANT]

I've seen that site too. If you see someone obviously exploiting the Cheat Engine stuff, or even suspect them of it, report them. FD need to work out how to keep these guys away from Open, and hopefully away from influencing our galaxy and economy too.

 

[Blood Lust]

I've seen that site too. If you see someone obviously exploiting the Cheat Engine stuff, or even suspect them of it, report them. FD need to work out how to keep these guys away from Open, and hopefully away from influencing our galaxy and economy too.

I linked them to the actual programming being used so hopefully they can figure out how to extract who has cheated from their database/server records.

 

[Copernicus Pitbull]

It's their loss, they will get bored fast when there is no challenge left and then they wasted their money ...

The obvious way is to use this in SOLO and then the benefits in OPEN so you will probably never see it happen. It needs to be countered at the server side.

 

[TriumphANT]

I linked them to the actual programming being used so hopefully they can figure out how to extract who has cheated from their database/server records.

I'll be VERY surprised if they haven't seen that already! For cheaters, crossing into Open is a huge risk, but even if their accounts are banned to Solo forever, they can still pass credits via Imperial Slaves/Palladium to their own accounts easily. Cheating is fun. That's the issue here. Nothing to do with "don't cheat, there's no way of winning". Getting something that other's can't get using methods unfair, clever or whatever.