Cherry picking which exploit to fix?

[Powderpanic]

Ha, just seen Wills post about the Fertilizer exploit being fixed and then anyone who used it having their gains removed.

Not that this would impact me since I already exploited multi-billions years ago. Yet they are they penalising this one with the line "We always review instances where players gain an unfair advantage on a case-by-case basis, evaluating the impact that it can have on the community and health of the game"

What about Draconis?
What about the stacking passenger missions with the expediated travel time by relogging?
What about the early trade exploits by running two instances on one pc and trading between the same player in two locations?
What about the buying and selling slaves in the same location?
There have been so many, I honestly cannot remember half of them.

The credits being an issue in-game horse has already bolted chaps. Ever wonder why most players have Cutters?
Your game is so fundamentally broken in terms of in-game economy, that a PVP player now having 6 billion rather than 5 billion, isn't going to matter.

What makes this one special? Seeing as ALL the others were reported

And if we are looking at exploits.. What about ACTUALLY coming down hard on combat loggers? That certainly would be covered by " where players gain an unfair advantage" .

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Powderpanic
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[Factabulous]

What makes this one special? Seeing as ALL the others were reported?

because this time they think they have the tools in place to take action? I have no clue

 

[ALEX CAOS]

this one makes special that you need credits for carrier. they just wan´t new players get them fast, stop playing and wait. For old players like us ferilizer was just a oportunity cause we got the money before, like me i just tested a bit saw it worked, sait "damm what a nice bug" and moved on bought a viper for race cause i was on the way to it, xd well see if they remove that 20k viper

 

[Arbadak]

What about proper update testing, at least on the fifth year after release?

 

[Deleted member 182079]

Guessing here but 1) because it was the mother of all credits exploits (billions per hour dwarves pretty much any exploit in the past, certainly the ones I benefited from) and 2) it was easy to fix, certainly easier than addressing CL'ing that's for sure.

 

[Powderpanic]

because this time they think they have the tools in place to take action? I have no clue

They have always had the tools. They retroactively punished the PVP players with the engineering hack a while back.

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[ALEX CAOS]

intresting is where will the put the line 1 credit , 1mill, 500 mill, 1 bill. And will the figure out if you bought there end seld another place?

 

[Rat Catcher]

Why worry... credits mean nothing once you have made enough to rebuy/buy new any ship...
As for your other gripe... keep on banging on, one day it'll change... maybe when Open PvE happens...

Didn't you stop playing a while back? or is my old brain getting confused

(not that I would ever CL, but it appears from comments that some folk do...)

 

[Deleted member 182079]

intresting is where will the put the line 1 credit , 1mill, 500 mill, 1 bill. And will the figure out if you bought there end seld another place?

"Your Cutter has been impounded and will be sold at auction, CRIMINAL"

 

[Jonuss]

Good to know what’s unacceptable levels of exploiting I guess. Cheating/trainers/miscellaneous hacks get just the boilerplate response but exploiting some credits is baaaad

 

[Powderpanic]

Good to know what’s unacceptable levels of exploiting I guess. Cheating/trainers/miscellaneous hacks get just the boilerplate response but exploiting some credits is baaaad

Rookie comment... You know that "Cheating/trainers/miscellaneous hacks" really only upset PVP players.

This is a vital PVE Economy issue.

Keep up!

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[Vandaahl]

7 mil in 5 seconds is an amount never shown before, but you kind of knew that.

I wonder what would of happened if the earned money was the sploiters to keep...

 

[Rinzler o7o7o7]

Why bother farming billions of rebuy credits (illegal exploit) when you can just combat log every time you're about to die (fdev approved exploit)?

 

[Morbad]

There is probably some subjective cost/benefit calculation behind it all.

if it strikes the QA team as especially bad and can be fixed with minimal effort, then it gets fixed. If not...

 

[Jonuss]

I wonder what would of happened if the earned money was the sploiters to keep...

They’d hoard it like everyone else does? It’s not like an ultra wealthy player can do anything with their money. Only so many times you can buy a cutter

 

[Deleted member 182079]

I'm sure others feel different but I'm quite glad that I missed out on this one, and am not really interested in exploits these days with credits so easy to come by now.

When I was in a squadron, I made hundreds of millions of credits by doing nothing but joining a wing, and cashing in on the work of my squadron mates grinding CZ wing missions (something I don't have the patience for).

I ended up transferring my Corvette to Colonia and back to the bubble to burn those credits (about 3bn in total), it just didn't feel right to me (as in, satisfying from a game perspective) as I didn't "earn" them properly. Not sure I would've done it knowing Fleet Carriers were coming for single players, but c'est la vie. At least now credits mean a little bit more again for me.

 

[WinterKing2112]

Ha, just seen Wills post about the Fertilizer exploit being fixed and then anyone who used it having their gains removed.

Not that this would impact me since I already exploited multi-billions years ago. Yet they are they penalising this one with the line "We always review instances where players gain an unfair advantage on a case-by-case basis, evaluating the impact that it can have on the community and health of the game"

What about Draconis?
What about the stacking passenger missions with the expediated travel time by relogging?
What about the early trade exploits by running two instances on one pc and trading between the same player in two locations?
What about the buying and selling slaves in the same location?
There have been so many, I honestly cannot remember half of them.

The credits being an issue in-game horse has already bolted chaps. Ever wonder why most players have Cutters?
Your game is so fundamentally broken in terms of in-game economy, that a PVP player now having 6 billion rather than 5 billion, isn't going to matter.

What makes this one special? Seeing as ALL the others were reported

And if we are looking at exploits.. What about ACTUALLY coming down hard on combat loggers? That certainly would be covered by " where players gain an unfair advantage" .

The PVP Community

Powderpanic
The Voice of Griefing

Would have thought you were too worried about getting impeached to concern yourself over some fertiliser exploit....

 

[Vandaahl]

They’d hoard it like everyone else does? It’s not like an ultra wealthy player can do anything with their money. Only so many times you can buy a cutter

I meant it would prolly cause mayhem in the 'punish teh sploiters' camp.

Anyway, money and CL, pff. Carry on, have fun

 

[WeComeInPeace]

Ha, just seen Wills post about the Fertilizer exploit being fixed and then anyone who used it having their gains removed.

Not that this would impact me since I already exploited multi-billions years ago. Yet they are they penalising this one with the line "We always review instances where players gain an unfair advantage on a case-by-case basis, evaluating the impact that it can have on the community and health of the game"

What about Draconis?
What about the stacking passenger missions with the expediated travel time by relogging?
What about the early trade exploits by running two instances on one pc and trading between the same player in two locations?
What about the buying and selling slaves in the same location?
There have been so many, I honestly cannot remember half of them.

The credits being an issue in-game horse has already bolted chaps. Ever wonder why most players have Cutters?
Your game is so fundamentally broken in terms of in-game economy, that a PVP player now having 6 billion rather than 5 billion, isn't going to matter.

What makes this one special? Seeing as ALL the others were reported

And if we are looking at exploits.. What about ACTUALLY coming down hard on combat loggers? That certainly would be covered by " where players gain an unfair advantage" .

The PVP Community

Powderpanic
The Voice of Griefing

Disregarding that it seems we disagree on many other subjects, I think you're right with this one.

There are laws in the galaxy, and even though it's "their law" to many, I accept that I get punished if I break the rules (FTR: I didn't trade fertilizer, because I was too late). It's also fair enough to change the laws, but it's never fair to change them retroactively. The blame is to be put on whoever set the prices of the fertilizer, not the CMDRs who made a very good trade.

Generally you should be allowed to use whatever "exploits" the galaxy allows you to, until it is nerfed. Let me quote: "Blaze your own trail". That is as close to "Find your own way of getting succes/rich in the galaxy" as it gets in my book.

 

[Powderpanic]

7 mil in 5 seconds is an amount never shown before, but you kind of knew that.

I wonder what would of happened if the earned money was the sploiters to keep...

400 million every 20mins with Skimmer killing was easy. ( 2-3mins of logging and stacking 20million missions, fly to the planet 2mins, position ship, kill skimmers with single rocket salvo and relog in 40 seconds, kill 96 skimmers, smash into a rock to die, complete back at the station.

That's 20million a minute.

How big does the exploit need to be, to be considered bad?

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