Civil War not starting

[Abil Midena]

I'm in a system that's been "civil war critical" for two days now. The non controlling faction was at 72%, and now 74%, but the civil war has not started.

There was a civil war in the system, but it did not involve either faction I am talking about. Also...

There's another system where the non controlling faction went from 66% to 72%, but still no civil war.

Has anyone noticed how long it takes for a civil war to start?

 

[smiths121]

Hello Abil,

A number of things can cause this. Manipulating the background simulator is not an exact science, and they keep tweaking it, so below is my understanding which may be out of date or entirely wrong!

1) There is only one faction with civil war pending (no-one else is interested). I believe if this occurs its a bug.
2) Cool down period, one of the factions with civil war pending is in a cool down period from civil war (a few days), Election, War or Boom (20+ days).
3) One of the faction exists in another system and has a state in the other system such as Boom or Civil War.

Hope this helps
Simon

 

[Abil Midena]

Hello Abil,

A number of things can cause this. Manipulating the background simulator is not an exact science, and they keep tweaking it, so below is my understanding which may be out of date or entirely wrong!

1) There is only one faction with civil war pending (no-one else is interested). I believe if this occurs its a bug.
2) Cool down period, one of the factions with civil war pending is in a cool down period from civil war (a few days), Election, War or Boom (20+ days).
3) One of the faction exists in another system and has a state in the other system such as Boom or Civil War.

Hope this helps
Simon

Well, I can say no to the first. I saw the post by DB saying cool down period is 3 days for civil war, so it's not that. A boom shouldn't effect if a civil war can occur, but I don't know that for sure. I have no way of checking #3, but I doubt it because these are system named factions, i.e. HIP 15699 Dudes.

I guess a basic question is, if no other "issues" exist, and a non controlling faction goes above 70%, is the civil war supposed to start that day?

 

[Dommarraa]

I see similar in 2 systems that I have a current interest in (Independent Permit Systems)
I have come to the "conclusion" that some factions are not interested in expansion. They have been coded to stay small.

 

[Abil Midena]

I see similar in 2 systems that I have a current interest in (Independent Permit Systems)
I have come to the "conclusion" that some factions are not interested in expansion. They have been coded to stay small.

How long have they been showing "civil war critical"?

 

[yul7896]

In my experience, a Civil War starts when two internal factions either surpass, or meet each other in Percent Influence. And a War starts when an external faction surpasses, or meets an internal faction in Percent Influence. Each specific type of war should begin once their respective percentage's collide.

Although, I know this dynamic doesn't always work, and the FDEV server team has to step in occasionally.

 

[Abil Midena]

In my experience, a Civil War starts when two internal factions either surpass, or meet each other in Percent Influence. And a War starts when an external faction surpasses, or meets an internal faction in Percent Influence. Each specific type of war should begin once their respective percentage's collide.

Although, I know this dynamic doesn't always work, and the FDEV server team has to step in occasionally.

Yeah, I'd open a ticket if I thought they would look at it before next year.

 

[yul7896]

Yeah, I'd open a ticket if I thought they would look at it before next year.

Pre-1.3 there was a forum thread exactly like this one. I made a post regarding a failure of this mechanic. Shortly thereafter, received a PM from 'Guy', he said the "server guys" will look at the problem. They did, and fixed it. I never opened a ticket.

 

[Abil Midena]

Pre-1.3 there was a forum thread exactly like this one. I made a post regarding a failure of this mechanic. Shortly thereafter, received a PM from 'Guy', he said the "server guys" will look at the problem. They did, and fixed it. I never opened a ticket.

Lies!

I don't want to bother the devs anyway with 1.3 going on. I imagine they're getting enough grief.