Cleaning up the Galaxy's bad data: An EDSM story.

Lance 'Spacecat' D.

Lance 'Spacecat' D.
Greetings fellow explorers. Do you like EDSM.net? Do you use the Market Connector, EDDiscovery or another trick to upload data? Do you care about that data being accurate? Are you 'the right kind of crazy' (as a wonderful lady once called me)? If so, have I got a project for you!

There's a lot of data in EDSM, and through the days of manual input and bugs in imports some bad data snuck in. Thanks to Orvidius of EDAstro, I've compiled a list of systems that could use a rescan to clear up two not-too-common data bugs: Planets that are zero light-seconds from arrival, and planets with zero-gravity. It's quite a hefty list at 600+ systems to visit, but I've organized it by galactic region and then system name, so it's not too hard for a determined explorer to clean up the few problem systems in a given sector.
I'd like to count on the wonderful, patient (and a little crazy) community of explorers to help me rescan these systems and clean up the bad data in EDSM! How do we get through such a big list? One system at a time!

If you're interested, just bookmark the sheet link below, i've arranged it so anyone can checkmark a system they rescan and double-check on EDSM.net
Googlesheet of systems with 0Ls or 0G planets

When you visit one such system, just FSS all the planets with EDMC or the like active, and doublecheck on EDSM.net, the before-and-after should look like this:
Before-after.jpg


I tip my hat to all brave data cleaning explorers that join me in this endeavor!


edit: It took us one month! early in May we cleared the list! Victory! (Well, mostly)
 
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varonica

varonica
Ah, an updated list, excelleeent, I shall get onto it right away.

Hmm none in Tenebrea where I am heading but quite a few where I am, will update my bookmarks list to get all I can on my current region.
 

varonica

varonica
Ok, none in Lyra's Song where I am at the moment either so it looks like the next region after Tenebrae I have planned to visit will be the target, there are a number in Xibalba, but they are 24kly away so may take a while to get there, still plenty of time before the FC live release if I decide to get one, I can be in the bubble then no problem.
 

Leif_Erikson

Leif_Erikson
Not all of these on the list is incorrect. Am doing a WD/ELW hunt around the Galactic Centre and Eos Chrea NN-Q D6-1809 I found a few days ago an HMC is on the list with a distance of 0ls.
But you can find very close orbiting planets around White Dwarfs. At 0.46ls away this could count as closer to 0 than 1ls. Found another world orbiting at 0.53 away and EDSM has that calculated at 1ls

DC Close Orbiting HMCjpeg.jpg
 

varonica

varonica
Leif_Erikson said:
Not all of these on the list is incorrect. Am doing a WD/ELW hunt around the Galactic Centre and Eos Chrea NN-Q D6-1809 I found a few days ago an HMC is on the list with a distance of 0ls.
But you can find very close orbiting planets around White Dwarfs. At 0.46ls away this could count as closer to 0 than 1ls. Found another world orbiting at 0.53 away and EDSM has that calculated at 1ls

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That was brought up in the previous thread we had about correcting erroneous data, some of them are indeed not wrong, but fall outside the level of accuracy that's pulled from the journal data.
 

Lance 'Spacecat' D.

Lance 'Spacecat' D.
Oh, a note for all: I hadn't noticed the unfortunate date when I started this project. It's not an april's fool, I really am doing this.

There can be a few mishaps in the list, but I've been careful to ask Orvidius to bring out "0 light seconds from star, and not a fraction of a light second"... I'll double check with him still. Most of the list is indeed 'in need of a new scan'. And good to see you guys again, Varonica, Iain666 and such! :)
 

Lance 'Spacecat' D.

Lance 'Spacecat' D.
Thanks Orvidius, so Leif_Erikson thanks for bringing this to my attention, but unfortunately we can't tell those 'false positive' systems that have less than a half second from the main star in distance, due to the way the database saves the data.

This said, we got 600 systems to clean up, and my guess is those false positives will be fairly rare, and impressive sights whenever we do happen on them. So let's not panic and carry on exploring?

Here, have a picture of Chaluia FS-A D1-4, a lovely white dwarf with a metal-rich orbiting inside the exclusion zone. ;)
Chaluia FS-A D1-4 close proximity.jpg
 

Lance 'Spacecat' D.

Lance 'Spacecat' D.
Well, this just in: Thanks to Orvidius and a flash of inspiration, we added some systems with '0 radius worlds' to the list.
Might as well, while we're at it.

(edit: I think they were already 0-something along, so I'll double check them)
(edit2: NEVERMIND, turns out all those 0-radius worlds were already in the list as being 0-gravity to boot, so list is back to normal)
 
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VPR

VPR
I'm heading through the Sanguineous Rim over the next week or so and I'll drop in on any of the systems near to my route.
 

VPR

VPR
I've been to the 3 Slegeae Sector systems and scanned them today. I'm not going to be heading back towards the bubble so if someone else wants to check these system below I'll scan the rest that are further out.

0-GravitySanguineous RimOochost TU-Q b24-01999
0-ArrivalSanguineous RimOutorst CV-R b46-02023
0-GravitySanguineous RimOutorst DC-K b36-02070
0-GravitySanguineous RimOutotz UE-R c4-22124
0-GravitySanguineous RimOutotch JY-H c23-82186
0-GravitySanguineous RimOutotch CW-E d11-292200
0-GravitySanguineous RimOutorst AE-K b9-02620
0-ArrivalSanguineous RimPlaa Thua CT-Q c18-12794
0-GravitySanguineous RimPlaa Thua CT-Q c18-12794
0-ArrivalSanguineous RimOutotch SR-W c1-12828
0-GravitySanguineous RimOutotch SR-W c1-12828
0-GravitySanguineous RimOochonz QR-G c12-03197
0-GravitySanguineous RimPreae Theia AA-A d103412
 

Orvidius

Orvidius
Yeah, the problem with the zero-temperature entries is that there's a huge number of them. In the database I see over 242,000 planets and over 168,000 stars with zero or missing temperatures. But I can make a spreadsheet available if anyone is crazy enough to chase those down. ;)
 

Lance 'Spacecat' D.

Lance 'Spacecat' D.
Gratz to Heavy Johnson for the idea... I had considered it, and like Orvidius says there is such a crazy amount of them, haaaaa!
Which is why I picked my battles, 0-grav, 0-radius and 0-distance all together make this list of 600 we're hammering into.

I want to throw a big shoutout to Qianas who is scanning systems like a boss! Bravo!
(I'm off to the southern part of the Outer Orion Spur, myself. With a side-challenge of snagging something in the codex)
 
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