Clear evidence that Odyssey never pass Alpha Phase up

Scaletho

Scaletho
Here is clear evidence all this was a very bad executed launching, with no improvements from Alpha:
To see the full analysis:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDeBOR8aILA


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Alien

Alien
D2EA "I was not able to detect any difference between Odyssey and Alpha" He has a beast of a machine.

I have a potato. It is below the minimum specs for Odyssey.
I'll tell you now, there IS a difference. A big difference. The Alpha was unplayable, and I have low standards.
In Odyssey I get 25fps with graphics settings on low, and 20fps with graphics settings on Ultra.
In ships I get 60fps.

Don't bother asking someone with a beast of a machine what performance is like, ask someone with a potato.
 

Lazerus Artificial

Lazerus Artificial
Alien said:
D2EA "I was not able to detect any difference between Odyssey and Alpha" He has a beast of a machine.

I have a potato. It is below the minimum specs for Odyssey.
I'll tell you now, there IS a difference. A big difference. The Alpha was unplayable, and I have low standards.
In Odyssey I get 25fps with graphics settings on low, and 20fps with graphics settings on Ultra.
In ships I get 60fps.

Don't bother asking someone with a beast of a machine what performance is like, ask someone with a potato.
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yep, exactly.
with my GTX 970 i was unable to play the Alpha. I couldnt use my Flashlight, everything was low Poly, System Map crashed everything.
Now? Works like a charm. Some minor glitches, but its playable
 

smiths121

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Seems Odyssey is slighlty less Frames than Alpha 4.
That would fit in with my experience, I had to dial back a bit from my ALpha 4 settings.

Still glad they launched though, could not face going back to Horizons.
Lets hope FD risew above the patrheticness of the community, and contnuously improve the performance of Odyssey, you know like thay did with ED 1.x.

Simon
 

BDelacroix

BDelacroix
He did not conclude that nothing was improved from alpha. Two items had. Some had not.
He's probably right, if you have a lower end machine, it will be a slide show.
I build my computer about 8 years ago. I build them near cutting edge. I have updated the graphics card since then and added SSDs. Things are working fine. It seems mostly to be a matter of graphics card then to me.
 

zombieapocalypse

zombieapocalypse
Alien said:
D2EA "I was not able to detect any difference between Odyssey and Alpha" He has a beast of a machine.

I have a potato. It is below the minimum specs for Odyssey.
I'll tell you now, there IS a difference. A big difference. The Alpha was unplayable, and I have low standards.
In Odyssey I get 25fps with graphics settings on low, and 20fps with graphics settings on Ultra.
In ships I get 60fps.

Don't bother asking someone with a beast of a machine what performance is like, ask someone with a potato.
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As I've said in a previous thread, my performance has also improved. Nowhere near as much as I would have liked but I can now play on high settings at 2K resolution and get an acceptable framerate (40-90fps) in stations and settlements, while in space I'm sometimes hitting my refresh rate of 155hz. My PC is decent but hardly a beast: i7-7700K@4.7Ghz, GTX 2060 (6GB), 32GB RAM.

People also need to remember that there are countless software, driver and hardware permutations, so even computers with comparatively similar hardware may experience very different framerates for the same scene in the same game.

That said, it's very clear that FDev need to do a lot more optimisation on Odyssey
 

hunvagy

hunvagy
smiths121 said:
Seems Odyssey is slighlty less Frames than Alpha 4.
That would fit in with my experience, I had to dial back a bit from my ALpha 4 settings.

Still glad they launched though, could not face going back to Horizons.
Lets hope FD risew above the patrheticness of the community, and contnuously improve the performance of Odyssey, you know like thay did with ED 1.x.

Simon
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Yes, you are totally right, how dare people complain about performance on their hardware, when GPUs are priced like a used car due to crypto hike. The peasants should just get the not in stock GPUs and be happy.
 

Soon(TM)

Soon(TM)
GTX 1060 should not be the recommended card for Odyssey.
It should be something more like a RTX2060 or Higher, my GTX1070 can barely push 25fps in Stations on low settings.
Its a travesty!
 

danteuk

danteuk
I'd say the graphs show minimal improvement in some areas.
My random running around in station and planets my frame rate looks and feels the same as Alpha.
My only really comparison was done yesterday at a guardians site in an SRV like for like.
Horizons: 140+
Odyssey : 40+
The visual improvements where definitely not worth the 100FPS drop!! and the SRV paint job looked worse in Odyssey.

I am glad that some people on low end gear now have something playable. My rig is over 5 years old and the GPU is the recommended.
 

Morbad

Morbad
Scaletho said:
Here is clear evidence all this was a very bad executed launching, with no improvements from Alpha
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Except for the obvious improvements cited...

Vogel_238 said:
So that means everything is fine now and I can buy?
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No, it just means the OP's statement contradict their own source.

There is no excuse for the amount of VRAM the game needs, or the failure to cull occluded interiors, which results in about half the frame rate as one would expect in many areas...but that doesn't mean the OP wasn't being hyperbolic.

No need to make something seem worse than it is when it's plenty terrible on it's own demerits.
 

WeComeInPeace

WeComeInPeace
Alien said:
D2EA "I was not able to detect any difference between Odyssey and Alpha" He has a beast of a machine.

I have a potato. It is below the minimum specs for Odyssey.
I'll tell you now, there IS a difference. A big difference. The Alpha was unplayable, and I have low standards.
In Odyssey I get 25fps with graphics settings on low, and 20fps with graphics settings on Ultra.
In ships I get 60fps.

Don't bother asking someone with a beast of a machine what performance is like, ask someone with a potato.
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Watch the video. D2EA reports slight improvements planetside in Odyssey compared to the alpha. Overall the performace compared to Horizons is close to half on average. He also recommend that people running on potatoes wait, but puts a little pressure on Fdev, by saying he will keep us posted, if Fdev find a solution.

I'm running a PC similar to D2EA's, with a 3070 and more memory, and a Reverb G2. I haven't checked my FPS, but it's clearly lower than Horizons. It's playable for now, with a few tweaks, but I get a lot of short freezes, especially after hyperjumps, while the game is loading the different layers of the star. In stations I'm well below 30 fps. There is plenty of room for optimization (culling) as Yamiks et al has shown. They simply released it without proper optimization. Should be fixable, but it's far from the only task, so time will tell.
 

LKx

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LazerusKI said:
yep, exactly.
with my GTX 970 i was unable to play the Alpha. I couldnt use my Flashlight, everything was low Poly, System Map crashed everything.
Now? Works like a charm. Some minor glitches, but its playable
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I have a GTX 980M (with a i7 6700HQ and 16GB RAM), which should perform a little worse than a 970, and i was able to reasonably play (20-30 fps in settlements) the alpha downsampling 1080p to 0.65x (which is pretty bad for the texts, but reasonable for the rest) and with shadows low (everything else to ultra, didn't make much difference).

Now i've pretty much the same performances with the same settings, but the lighting is better
 
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Drelthar

Drelthar
Alien said:
D2EA "I was not able to detect any difference between Odyssey and Alpha" He has a beast of a machine.

I have a potato. It is below the minimum specs for Odyssey.
I'll tell you now, there IS a difference. A big difference. The Alpha was unplayable, and I have low standards.
In Odyssey I get 25fps with graphics settings on low, and 20fps with graphics settings on Ultra.
In ships I get 60fps.

Don't bother asking someone with a beast of a machine what performance is like, ask someone with a potato.
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While this is true - the optimisation should also have made it better for beast machines. The current performance on high spec machines is atrocious
 
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