Cmdr Drelex here !
Hello, (sorry for my english i'm french)
I'm new to Elite Dangerous Mac then switched to Horizons on a PC, and I expect to be able to use same account and play on PS4 ?
(I write same account because I see that this is not possible with No Man's Sky with is a big problem)
If i can keep the same account on PS4 Elite, I will purchase the game on PS4, if not I won't.
It's a shame that I can't play Horizons on the Mac or on the PS4 since both have access to the living room video projector !
My path in Elite Dangerous :
A month in, I did several missions and some cargo helped by some EDDB tips.
Until I made my first 10 millions and fitted a Cobra for a test exploration run to a near nebula.
Since all was good I came back in the bubble then fitted a AFM and a scarab... to go to Jacques.
Soon i discovered that an AFM is almost useless, since my first high gravity planet landing went bad so I damaged hull and power core and was unable to repair, 97% looks unclean to me...
Scarab is useful up to a point : there are limits to inventory quickly filled, then I had to make an histogram of the most useful materials for FSD boost and other side things like refill for AFM and then define may max number for each material in order to have maximum reserve of those.
In order for me to reach Jacques in a reasonable number of jumps, I decided to do a very complex path : the boring straight line ....
( it looks like i'm alone doing that lol )
First i wrote the coords of my starting point and the coords of Jacques.
I searched how to reduce a vector to a unit vector, and then splitter to have coords of all my waypoints spaced 900 AL.
approaching my 4th point I see that stars are now a little more spaced, I have to look ahead in the galaxy map for stars type in order to change destination to refillable stars.
So far very good, I explore only "more than 40 bodies systems" and pass on the rest. I'm alone here. since 3rd point I have not seen an "explored by xxx" body.
My Past with Frontier Elite II on Amiga :
I was absolutely blown away by this game, even if i was young, that game forced me to understand a lot of things space. I was from a Space education, before learning how to read I was fluent in what is an astronomical unit, the solar system, each human and probe missions, what is a star, at that time a realistic estimation was one star over 10000 can have planets (now it is every stars except some) what is a galaxy, and an idea of the size of things, distances and their meaning for the real world. In my early school i was named by my friends "the book" because when i had not the answer, I was able to have it the day after.
Then came the Amiga and the game. Exactly what I needed to expand my scope. The right dope for the right game. I was bored very fast by the problem of the copyright of the game that asked each station I docked for a password deducted from a code page and the written words in the manual.
No matter the short time I played Frontier Elite II : I was deeply marked for LIFE : this is the future of gaming and in the future graphics and computing power will be able to handle the Universe, and be able to be updated in real time by all what science and real observation will discover.
I even started some periods where I was taking notes : how to make plugins and add apps to the simulated spaceship, ways to actually see storage areas, add containers in between the engines and the living quarters, even adding rotating rigs to dock modules with gravity...
I even deployed organigrams for the galaxy; how to cut it into cube sectors, then give each one a star density If no science its available on this block. And parametric generate content. (parametric content should automatically fill with an order of priority : 1- level design, 2- stars catalogs, 3- parametric)
Later I was very exited when Gaia was launched and being very close to ESA, I hope that when the catalogue are fully disclosed the Milky way of Elite will benefit from it.
the Hipparcos catalogue is OLD now.
I still think the modern game must morph along with science, correcting itself. (this can work and not disturb the pure gameplay, powers etc.)
now with current game :
I tried to fly ASSIST OFF :
well... even after upgrading my mouse with an X52 Pro I still suck at "assist off" flight. Following space dust is just not that. The front and back vectors should be on display (an x and an o for example ) and please remove this ugly square showing the mouse... a thin cross with an hollow middle would be much more informative and let see the glowing point growing in the middle ans slowly becoming a planet.
I'm happy even if I can't fly assist off, one of the main interesting aspects of gameplay in Elite it to slowly build a real talent. It respond perfectly well to inputs. I know i will slowly improve at this.
Inventory is too small.
life support in ship goes far beyond a delay for oxygen cutoff : water recycling, poo recycling, air recycling, luggage space, hygiene, planetary survival kit, couch, EVA suit for ship repairs, food, all duplicate for crew, passenger, etc.
Planetary Landing is Awesome.
System Map is BAD :
it takes time to load / display; it does not show goldilocks zones; it is not logical that a not scanned planet display as color picture, it need a scan to be more than a wireframe. a system map should be an instantaneous display with at least relationship between bodies (orbits, zoomable)
I think that the Advanced Discovery Scanner is cheated; it should not be possible to scan with infinite range. a gravimetric scan should discover bodies by mass, then optical then radar for smaller/black bodies.
Detailed surface scan should be done by either a on board telescope system or probe drones that do flyby with a photo recon.
THERE IS a display of the planet on te holographic dash of the ship why not switch to a telescope view while scanning, then get the picture ?
then make telephoto / probe drones cargo / upgradable with levels.
why do I have to go scan a planet if i have already its looks on the system map ?
a better practise would be to discover gas giants at infinite range, then having to go closer to discover its moons, and only having a color picture when detail scanned.
Sound, Music, Each ship different shake and vibrations, detail noises, scarab scan sound, all absolutely Awesome ! even sound mod when life support is offline, great !!
integrate good game mods as in game purchases and/or ship apps that you can purchase in stations, like voice recognition, voice packs, Paint jobs should also cost game units, things that you sell in external shop should be possible to find/earn as game reward (harder).
Planet orbits looks great in FSAA4x is it possible to do AA the orbit lines only ? please add a display of orbits 50% dimmer. and/or add a distance fade to those ; as it is sometimes difficult to visually evaluate what is foreground and background.
The planet orbits should be part of the holographic dashboard display but not viewed outside the ship windshield.
The planet orbits should be cut before and after the planet to not disturb the beautiful ramp from point of light to small crescent.
The warp speed to a new star system shows edges of pictures that should not be visible.
Scanner range in normal space is ... pathetic.
overall for me it is the absolute best game ever, after playing Eve for a year, wow for 3 years, both starcrafts, all X universe and no man sky.
(you should look at mining in Eve online since it is most interesting)
But there is still a lot of work on Elite to make it evolve with time, a game that is almost not a game, do not distract the player with unrealistic instant ship transfer or any kind of portal or teleportation. This game should always sweat and time for your travel.
I'm waiting PS4, landing on cloudy planets, coud stations in gas giants, life forms (unintelligent and intelligent), first person walking into ship, stations, planet surface. True medical accurate survival, and EVA's. Updated star catalogs from Gaia. Minor bodies (like KPO, Oort cloud, asteroids like ceres, Asteroids with stations on/in )
well, i wrote more than expected, time to go to sleep.
Hello, (sorry for my english i'm french)
I'm new to Elite Dangerous Mac then switched to Horizons on a PC, and I expect to be able to use same account and play on PS4 ?
(I write same account because I see that this is not possible with No Man's Sky with is a big problem)
If i can keep the same account on PS4 Elite, I will purchase the game on PS4, if not I won't.
It's a shame that I can't play Horizons on the Mac or on the PS4 since both have access to the living room video projector !
My path in Elite Dangerous :
A month in, I did several missions and some cargo helped by some EDDB tips.
Until I made my first 10 millions and fitted a Cobra for a test exploration run to a near nebula.
Since all was good I came back in the bubble then fitted a AFM and a scarab... to go to Jacques.
Soon i discovered that an AFM is almost useless, since my first high gravity planet landing went bad so I damaged hull and power core and was unable to repair, 97% looks unclean to me...
Scarab is useful up to a point : there are limits to inventory quickly filled, then I had to make an histogram of the most useful materials for FSD boost and other side things like refill for AFM and then define may max number for each material in order to have maximum reserve of those.
In order for me to reach Jacques in a reasonable number of jumps, I decided to do a very complex path : the boring straight line ....
( it looks like i'm alone doing that lol )
First i wrote the coords of my starting point and the coords of Jacques.
I searched how to reduce a vector to a unit vector, and then splitter to have coords of all my waypoints spaced 900 AL.
approaching my 4th point I see that stars are now a little more spaced, I have to look ahead in the galaxy map for stars type in order to change destination to refillable stars.
So far very good, I explore only "more than 40 bodies systems" and pass on the rest. I'm alone here. since 3rd point I have not seen an "explored by xxx" body.
My Past with Frontier Elite II on Amiga :
I was absolutely blown away by this game, even if i was young, that game forced me to understand a lot of things space. I was from a Space education, before learning how to read I was fluent in what is an astronomical unit, the solar system, each human and probe missions, what is a star, at that time a realistic estimation was one star over 10000 can have planets (now it is every stars except some) what is a galaxy, and an idea of the size of things, distances and their meaning for the real world. In my early school i was named by my friends "the book" because when i had not the answer, I was able to have it the day after.
Then came the Amiga and the game. Exactly what I needed to expand my scope. The right dope for the right game. I was bored very fast by the problem of the copyright of the game that asked each station I docked for a password deducted from a code page and the written words in the manual.
No matter the short time I played Frontier Elite II : I was deeply marked for LIFE : this is the future of gaming and in the future graphics and computing power will be able to handle the Universe, and be able to be updated in real time by all what science and real observation will discover.
I even started some periods where I was taking notes : how to make plugins and add apps to the simulated spaceship, ways to actually see storage areas, add containers in between the engines and the living quarters, even adding rotating rigs to dock modules with gravity...
I even deployed organigrams for the galaxy; how to cut it into cube sectors, then give each one a star density If no science its available on this block. And parametric generate content. (parametric content should automatically fill with an order of priority : 1- level design, 2- stars catalogs, 3- parametric)
Later I was very exited when Gaia was launched and being very close to ESA, I hope that when the catalogue are fully disclosed the Milky way of Elite will benefit from it.
the Hipparcos catalogue is OLD now.
I still think the modern game must morph along with science, correcting itself. (this can work and not disturb the pure gameplay, powers etc.)
now with current game :
I tried to fly ASSIST OFF :
well... even after upgrading my mouse with an X52 Pro I still suck at "assist off" flight. Following space dust is just not that. The front and back vectors should be on display (an x and an o for example ) and please remove this ugly square showing the mouse... a thin cross with an hollow middle would be much more informative and let see the glowing point growing in the middle ans slowly becoming a planet.
I'm happy even if I can't fly assist off, one of the main interesting aspects of gameplay in Elite it to slowly build a real talent. It respond perfectly well to inputs. I know i will slowly improve at this.
Inventory is too small.
life support in ship goes far beyond a delay for oxygen cutoff : water recycling, poo recycling, air recycling, luggage space, hygiene, planetary survival kit, couch, EVA suit for ship repairs, food, all duplicate for crew, passenger, etc.
Planetary Landing is Awesome.
System Map is BAD :
it takes time to load / display; it does not show goldilocks zones; it is not logical that a not scanned planet display as color picture, it need a scan to be more than a wireframe. a system map should be an instantaneous display with at least relationship between bodies (orbits, zoomable)
I think that the Advanced Discovery Scanner is cheated; it should not be possible to scan with infinite range. a gravimetric scan should discover bodies by mass, then optical then radar for smaller/black bodies.
Detailed surface scan should be done by either a on board telescope system or probe drones that do flyby with a photo recon.
THERE IS a display of the planet on te holographic dash of the ship why not switch to a telescope view while scanning, then get the picture ?
then make telephoto / probe drones cargo / upgradable with levels.
why do I have to go scan a planet if i have already its looks on the system map ?
a better practise would be to discover gas giants at infinite range, then having to go closer to discover its moons, and only having a color picture when detail scanned.
Sound, Music, Each ship different shake and vibrations, detail noises, scarab scan sound, all absolutely Awesome ! even sound mod when life support is offline, great !!
integrate good game mods as in game purchases and/or ship apps that you can purchase in stations, like voice recognition, voice packs, Paint jobs should also cost game units, things that you sell in external shop should be possible to find/earn as game reward (harder).
Planet orbits looks great in FSAA4x is it possible to do AA the orbit lines only ? please add a display of orbits 50% dimmer. and/or add a distance fade to those ; as it is sometimes difficult to visually evaluate what is foreground and background.
The planet orbits should be part of the holographic dashboard display but not viewed outside the ship windshield.
The planet orbits should be cut before and after the planet to not disturb the beautiful ramp from point of light to small crescent.
The warp speed to a new star system shows edges of pictures that should not be visible.
Scanner range in normal space is ... pathetic.
overall for me it is the absolute best game ever, after playing Eve for a year, wow for 3 years, both starcrafts, all X universe and no man sky.
(you should look at mining in Eve online since it is most interesting)
But there is still a lot of work on Elite to make it evolve with time, a game that is almost not a game, do not distract the player with unrealistic instant ship transfer or any kind of portal or teleportation. This game should always sweat and time for your travel.
I'm waiting PS4, landing on cloudy planets, coud stations in gas giants, life forms (unintelligent and intelligent), first person walking into ship, stations, planet surface. True medical accurate survival, and EVA's. Updated star catalogs from Gaia. Minor bodies (like KPO, Oort cloud, asteroids like ceres, Asteroids with stations on/in )
well, i wrote more than expected, time to go to sleep.
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