C'mon FDev pay attention to your own game.

[Cmdr Tel]

As the title points out this is about their lack of interest in player driven events. There was a huge uprising against Hudson's oppressive regime that cost him dearly and involved both PP and BGS groups alike on both sides. Not a single mention in Galnet, it's as if nothing happened in the Galaxy.
I know they aren't interested in PP but IT DOES affect the players, that was the whole point afterall.
Hudson lost 41 control bubbles and 600 systems, this was no small event it was an epic battle of both tactics and raw manpower. Isn't this why PP was introduced in the first place?
Please FDev take notice of the mechanisms you put in the game, I thought we were supposed to able to affect the Galaxy then pay attention when the players do.

O7 to all the cmdrs that were involved, that was a helluva an effort on both sides.

C'mon FDev, we do have a living Galaxy out there, I'm just asking you take notice and give at least a nod to the events that happen,

 

[CMDR The Riz]

As the title points out this is about their lack of interest in player driven events. There was a huge uprising against Hudson's oppressive regime that cost him dearly and involved both PP and BGS groups alike on both sides. Not a single mention in Galnet, it's as if nothing happened in the Galaxy.
I know they aren't interested in PP but IT DOES affect the players, that was the whole point afterall.
Hudson lost 41 control bubbles and 600 systems, this was no small event it was an epic battle of both tactics and raw manpower. Isn't this why PP was introduced in the first place?
Please FDev take notice of the mechanisms you put in the game, I thought we were supposed to able to affect the Galaxy then pay attention when the players do.

O7 to all the cmdrs that were involved, that was a helluva an effort on both sides.

C'mon FDev, we do have a living Galaxy out there, I'm just asking you take notice and give at least a nod to the events that happen,

If anybody wants to continue that fight against Hudson, my Faction (the 25 Nu-2 Draconis Bureau) is currently engaged in a war for control of Minun, one of the systems that they are preparing for this upcoming Powerplay cycle:

I've been fighting this war unsuccessfully for the past three weeks following an expansion into Minun after discovering evidence of Federal Agent activity in my home system. The window of opportunity to deny Hudson another system is rapidly closing: I am currently in a 1v20 scenario and cannot hold the line on my own, with the war currently at 2-1 in favor of the Independent Mach Partnership.

For those who are interested, a space High CZ is just above Minun A 2, which is nearby Shiner Enterprise, Finch Depot and my Carrier Rhapsody of Chaos (JFT-LQX). At least one Odyssey High CZ is located at Kaiser Cultivation Centre on Minun A 4.

 

[zimms]

The Federation losing in PP/BGS has always been a foregone conclusion. There's also not been a Galnet article about the demise of Anarchy factions.

 

[Factabulous]

Galnet also almost completely ignored the Thargoids rampaging across the bubble, and I'm sure lots more. Sometimes they just expect people to pay attention

Plus - this way we get to spread the news

#immersion

 

[Flimley]

Galnet never mentioned me once in over seven years.

Flimley

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

Not surprising.
Probably not gonna be able to force the issue either.
Jus' saying.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

There is I think a responsibility among BGS and Powerplayers who want Galnet mentions to be a lot more proactive about publicity. There are hundreds of systems changing hands through the BGS every week. Powerplay is always moving. Those events might be part of a wider narrative or they might not. The secrecy of Powerplay and BGS strategy generally works against getting noticed more widely - if it's significant, you need to say what's happening and why. Make it an in-game event open to more than just the existing Powerplay fans by publicly calling for support in systems A, B and C (and encourage your opponents to do the same!). Make clear the general strategy and progress by both sides so that people can see what's happening and why it's important before you come to the forums and say "hey, Hudson just lost 40 systems, shouldn't that be a big deal?" - if it was a big deal, shouldn't I have heard about it before now?

Out in Colonia a couple of years ago there was a very significant BGS dispute resulting in the rewriting of control of several systems, the breaking and forming of new alliances, and the end of the previous political consensus, as well as in-game effects visible even to non-participants as the sides competed for public support. The various parties put forward their points of view on the forums, and there was at the end enough material for me to write it up in a commemorative history, and for one of the participants to use it as the backdrop of a novel. It even got a brief (one sentence, if you were looking for it) mention in Galnet recently. Some people complained a bit about the regular threads about it, but it did make clear that things were happening.

Similarly, the supporters of Nova Imperium and the Marlinist Colonies have got their own mentions by being public and interesting about how they provide that support.


Yes, being more open about it makes it easier for your rivals to see what you're doing and plan to counter it. It goes against the normal instincts of 99% of Powerplay and BGS players. But:
1) Do it in secret, Galnet reports it in secret on page 30. That's what normally happens.
2) Publicise it more - and build a story around it, get someone who can write in, not just "hey, help us win this spreadsheet game mechanics score" - and you get more people to your side, which should counterbalance having your broad strategy public.
3) It's a more interesting story (which is what Galnet wants!) if it's not a one-sided walkover. The advantage in the Colonia conflict switched back and forth two or three times before the end, giving it an actual "story arc" I could write up.

 

[Rubbernuke]

Long ago in the first weeks of Powerplay FD did actually do this and it confused the hell out of people / annoyed people / triggered people so they stopped it.

 

[zimms]

I also don't think Frontier would currently be too keen on putting the spotlight on PP.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

Long ago in the first weeks of Powerplay FD did actually do this and it confused the hell out of people / annoyed people / triggered people so they stopped it.

It didn't help, I think, that FD really didn't know what to do with ALD taking control of Beta Hydri - and fairly early on, at that. Shrugging and saying "well, obviously Powerplay doesn't actually mean anything" was the wrong answer, but equally it would have been rather difficult to acknowledge properly.

 

[Dillon Fallon]

They kind of did.- there's an ongoing storyline about systems leaving Federation control. While it may not fit exactly with what's happening in game it is acknowledged that the Federation is on a decline. Anything more than that probably isn't going to be of interest to players in general as it is happening, but may well form the background of the election that's happening next year.

 

[Rubbernuke]

It didn't help, I think, that FD really didn't know what to do with ALD taking control of Beta Hydri - and fairly early on, at that. Shrugging and saying "well, obviously Powerplay doesn't actually mean anything" was the wrong answer, but equally it would have been rather difficult to acknowledge properly.

Not even that- I remember that Pranav Antal in Cycle 1 or 2 was possibly expanding into a system that FD then put into Galnet, and confused people into thinking 'is this what we have to do?

The other was PMFs and rivals throwing a paddy about "why aren't we in Galnet? I submitted a 1500 word story and nuthing!!! NATHING!!"!!!!!!!" rants.

Lastly PP is riddled with 5C, and it would be insulting for FD to dutifully report on Powerplay happenings that were done via exploits and 5C actions.

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

Probably needs a rework.

 

[Dillon Fallon]

Not even that- I remember that Pranav Antal in Cycle 1 or 2 was possibly expanding into a system that FD then put into Galnet, and confused people into thinking 'is this what we have to do?

The other was PMFs and rivals throwing a paddy about "why aren't we in Galnet? I submitted a 1500 word story and nuthing!!! NATHING!!"!!!!!!!" rants.

Lastly PP is riddled with 5C, and it would be insulting for FD to dutifully report on Powerplay happenings that were done via exploits and 5C actions.

Probably why anything that does go in GalNet is going to be based on trends over months and not specific events. As you say, blow by blow accounts aren't going to be fair to everyone and effectively would likely end up being like the days of having 'fluff' stories that a significant amount of players didn't want (and then got removed).

Really, unless there's battle lines drawn in the bubble between factions and things like contested systems feel like something is going on it's probably not really relevant to most players. It should be though- here's hoping 2023 will change that.

 

[Rainbro]

Agreed fully with Ian's points, as usual. Publicity is the most important thing, it gives Frontier an indication of support and interest among the playerbase. If that's high enough, and it doesn't also conflict with what they want to do, and it can be written into the narrative in a plausible way, and the coin flip lands on "heads, tails, then heads" in that precise order, then it can happen. And finally, for something like this, they probably want to also see that it's more of a permanent victory or trend than something that could be reversed a day or so after they put out the article.

It's not too late to integrate this into something more suitable, though. Publicise it in a more lore-friendly way and keep the momentum going. What caused this? No, it can't be a massive Imperial attack, because the superpowers are at peace right now and that's too big a change to drop on Frontier. Rising support for Rackham? Protests against the PDB and/or the Hudson Contravention?

Do something like that for a while, hope that it doesn't conflict with Frontier's own plans for the future, and it might just work. Frontier have hinted at possible player involvement with the secessionist factions (which I tried, didn't publicise, and failed despite making arguably significant BGS gains). This is a bit further away from what they were hinting at, but maybe the story path is there with some modification.

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

Do we actually know the numbers involved in this?

 

[O'Roarke]

PowerPlay, to me, is a bunch of boring numbers that are stickied at the top of GalNet.

It would help if people did an after-action report on what exactly happened.
Why it's special, what kind of trickery was used.

Because to me PowerPlay is dealing with that excruciating UX failure of an interface to get cool modules.

 

[Rubbernuke]

The other is that local news is beefed up

Please beef up procedurally generated wording in automatically generated stories / reports

While they are reviled, the automatically generated news in stations and Powerplay might be less annoying of they saw some love like the BGS did- in a way build a BGS for stories. What do I mean? Each system in the game has a population, happiness values etc that all have 'hooks' right now...

forums.frontier.co.uk

Or https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...scriptions-using-squadron-like-opt-in.535164/

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

PowerPlay, to me, is a bunch of boring numbers that are stickied at the top of GalNet.

It would help if people did an after-action report on what exactly happened.
Why it's special, what kind of trickery was used.

Because to me PowerPlay is dealing with that excruciating UX failure of an interface to get cool modules.

You may just have to engage with it. Try it sometime.

 

[Frankymole]

Not even that- I remember that Pranav Antal in Cycle 1 or 2 was possibly expanding into a system that FD then put into Galnet, and confused people into thinking 'is this what we have to do?

The other was PMFs and rivals throwing a paddy about "why aren't we in Galnet? I submitted a 1500 word story and nuthing!!! NATHING!!"!!!!!!!" rants.

Lastly PP is riddled with 5C, and it would be insulting for FD to dutifully report on Powerplay happenings that were done via exploits and 5C actions.

What is 5C?