Coffee is how much?

Coffee..

I NEEED coffee.

When will coffee outlets start doing morning deliveries? Seriously if on the off chance any of you is upper management in a coffee chain get that ish on the menu!
 
I've decided I'm going to start looking for an earthlike with good rainfall and the right sized mountains grow me some coffee, get an animal (not fussy what type) tea and excrete that coffee and sell it at 4500cr a unit to space-hipsters
You'd have to compete with the two hipster rare goods coffees that are in the game already though ;)

Any Na Coffee:

Once sneered at as a cheap substitute, this product has gained cult status from its overly thick texture and bitter flavour from the roots and herbs that it is made of. It is an acquired taste that now appeals to the Bohemian set.

Goman Youpon Coffee:

This once traditional coffee substitute leapt to fame when the Emperor Hengist Duval gave it his seal of approval.
 
I was shocked... shocked I say, when I went to make my fortune driving coffee around the edges of occupied space. When the merchant told me the rate I was all "no mate for a whole standard unit, not a cup!" Seriously have these people not drunk good coffee? so instead of cruising round with my ship full of the good stuff I'm stuck hauling neo-fabris and polymers.
Also don't get me started on the price of tobacco what the hell where you going to be able to smoke on a station, outside?

On one side I'd love to make millions trading my favorite morning drink! :)

On the other side, I would be sad if common folk couldn't afford two cups of Good Coffee every morning :-(
 
Sindewinder costs around 32K Cr, which (as far as I know) is more or less the price of modern car in US Dollars, so we can assume the exchange ratio to be 1:1
I just checked and price of coffe per kilogram and it is about 1.50$ (it varies, but let's make it that), which gives us about 1500$ per tonne.
In Elite you can buy coffe for as low as 950Cr/T and sell for as much as 2300Cr/T
I would say it's pretty close.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure I remember reading somewhere that 1Cr is roughly equal to 50 USD? Anyone else? I could be mistaken. I'll try to find a source.

EDIT: https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Credits
 
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I remember reading forums when everybody was like "yay, cowbells!" but I can't remember what it was all about. Drinking coffee right now. Imagine an earth-like world where the primary export was coffee.

I don't need to imagine it; my homeworld is already like that. To see what I mean, let's compare Earth 2018 with my homeworld in 3305.

Earth 2018: produced 750 million tonnes of wheat, 10 million tonnes of coffee. Ratio: 75:1. The ratio would be higher if we included barley (142 million tonnes) and corn (1100 million tonnes), giving a total "grain" figure for 2018 Earth of around 2 billion tonnes/year, a grain:coffee ratio of 200:1 That's not a "coffee planet".

My homeworld, current stocks at the orbital station: 2.7 million tonnes of "grain", 3.9 million tonnes of coffee. Ratio: 1:1.4. Suffice to say that, by comparison, my homeworld is a "coffee planet". Coffee is indeed the planet's largest export; number 2 is Tea (3.1 million tonnes).

Forgive me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure I remember reading somewhere that 1Cr is roughly equal to 50 USD? Anyone else? I could be mistaken. I'll try to find a source.

EDIT: https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Credits

The values from the wiki are derived from the values used in the ED:RPG game - which needs to know such things so it can price everything properly. But I would not necessarily regard them as canonical. The use of "microcredit" for 1/100th of a credit is patently wrong, as it misuses the standard SI unit prefix used elsewhere in ED; a "microcredit" would be 1/1,000,000th of a credit. 1/100th of a credit would be a "centicredit".

The credit:dollar ratio is one much discussed on the forums. As with any inter-temporal currency comparison, it is difficult to find a uniform "standard" that is meaningful to both cultures, by which a currency is measured. Comparing an ancient Roman denarius with a 21st century dollar has similar problems, for similar reasons.

It is well established that, in the ED galaxy, gold is ridiculously cheap (because any idiot with a mining laser can spend a few minutes mining an entire tonne of the stuff) whereas "food" is expensive, because only the wealthiest can afford to regularly eat "natural" food like grains, fruit, meat, coffee and beer. In the ED universe, most people most of the time eat synthetic substitutes of these things. Using different commodities gives different numbers, as one would expect in a situation where there are two civilizations within which the supply and demand (and therefore price) of everything is going to be vastly different.

For my own calculation comparison I ran a few yeas ago now, I used Personal Weapons, reasoning that demand for such things would be more or less similar and labour and materials costs should also be similar. On that basis, a single handgun in ED ought to cost somewhere around 2.2 credits, giving a dollar:credit ratio of around $270:1cr.
 
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I don't need to imagine it; my homeworld is already like that. To see what I mean, let's compare Earth 2018 with my homeworld in 3305.

Earth 2018: produced 750 million tonnes of wheat, 10 million tonnes of coffee. Ratio: 75:1. The ratio would be higher if we included barley (142 million tonnes) and corn (1100 million tonnes), giving a total "grain" figure for 2018 Earth of around 2 billion tonnes/year, a grain:coffee ratio of 200:1 That's not a "coffee planet".

My homeworld, current stocks at the orbital station: 2.7 million tonnes of "grain", 3.9 million tonnes of coffee. Ratio: 1:1.4. Suffice to say that, by comparison, my homeworld is a "coffee planet". Coffee is indeed the planet's largest export; number 2 is Tea (3.1 million tonnes).



The values from the wiki are derived from the values used in the ED:RPG game - which needs to know such things so it can price everything properly. But I would not necessarily regard them as canonical. The use of "microcredit" for 1/100th of a credit is patently wrong, as it misuses the standard SI unit prefix used elsewhere in ED; a "microcredit" would be 1/1,000,000th of a credit. 1/100th of a credit would be a "centicredit".

The credit:dollar ratio is one much discussed on the forums. As with any inter-temporal currency comparison, it is difficult to find a uniform "standard" that is meaningful to both cultures, by which a currency is measured. Comparing an ancient Roman denarius with a 21st century dollar has similar problems, for similar reasons.

It is well established that, in the ED galaxy, gold is ridiculously cheap (because any idiot with a mining laser can spend a few minutes mining an entire tonne of the stuff) whereas "food" is expensive, because only the wealthiest can afford to regularly eat "natural" food like grains, fruit, meat, coffee and beer. In the ED universe, most people most of the time eat synthetic substitutes of these things. Using different commodities gives different numbers, as one would expect in a situation where there are two civilizations within which the supply and demand (and therefore price) of everything is going to be vastly different.

For my own calculation comparison I ran a few yeas ago now, I used Personal Weapons, reasoning that demand for such things would be more or less similar and labour and materials costs should also be similar. On that basis, a single handgun in ED ought to cost somewhere around 2.2 credits, giving a dollar:credit ratio of around $270:1cr.
I want to move to Sala 2 A. Metals and minerals probably have high value due to being much demanded for industry, and because space is very dangerous.
 
Earth 2018: produced 750 million tonnes of wheat, 10 million tonnes of coffee. Ratio: 75:1. The ratio would be higher if we included barley (142 million tonnes) and corn (1100 million tonnes), giving a total "grain" figure for 2018 Earth of around 2 billion tonnes/year, a grain:coffee ratio of 200:1 That's not a "coffee planet".
If you add in 741.5 million tonnes of rice, plus oats, rye and millet, it's more like 3 billion tonnes.
 
It is well established that, in the ED galaxy, gold is ridiculously cheap (because any idiot with a mining laser can spend a few minutes mining an entire tonne of the stuff) whereas "food" is expensive
Kinda begs the question why void opals, LTDs and Painite are ridiculously expensive considering that any idiot with a ship and equipment can mine cargo hold full of them in few hours. I wonder what they do with all those VOpals, pulverize and snort them?
 
Kinda begs the question why void opals, LTDs and Painite are ridiculously expensive considering that any idiot with a ship and equipment can mine cargo hold full of them in few hours. I wonder what they do with all those VOpals, pulverize and snort them?

Where do you think Mirrored Surface Composite Armour comes from - shiny stuff like that just doesn't grow on trees you know ;)
 
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