Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3, Soontill, Thargoids and Guardians. Rumours, evidence and implications.

@Thatchinho: Could be my memory playing tricks on me (certainly wouldn't be the first time), but wasn't Soontil connected to the story of the alien relic first discovered on Mars? Or is that a completely separate thing entirely (another mystery in its own right)?

If need be I can search for references, but I'm hoping people will remember this and maybe put me straight.

As HZ says, there's no known connection. Well not one I'm aware of anyway. Having said that I've not seen much official stuff about the Mars Relic other than MB's points about it in the same lorestream that he talked about Raxxla in. It's always possible you've seen something that we haven't!

But the Mars Relic is a good mystery, particularly with regard to why so little information about it was ever made public. (In the game universe I mean, not by FD! ;) )
 
There is no confirmed connection between the Mars relic and Soontil.

As far as I know, Soontil was created because the author wasn’t allowed to use Raxxla in the story.

I've seen a few things which might place Soontill's creation much earlier, but I'm not convinced they're authentic. Might have to ask the author!
 
It's shame we don't have a golden rep we can use once a month or so, so a simple +1 rep.

My humble contribution is, that the surface feature (volcano-like shape) on Soontil 1 is fairly common. I guess it will get a proper treatment once atmospheric planets open up.
The thing with CIEP is, that probably their nav computers are not tied to the Pilots Federation nav computers, hence they can probably freely enter Col70, which could be interesting prospect.

I wish there was a region to look for something, it would be a nice break from the bubble dwelling. :)

That's very kind, thank you!

Thanks for the info on the Soontill surface feature, and yeah, it'll definitely be interesting to take a look around when we're able to land there!

Also, yeah, if the CIEP were able to get around the permit locks, that'd be very interesting. Having said that it's hinted in Premonition that it isn't the PF that are responsible for the Region locks.

I haven't got any suggestion on places to look for undiscovered things, but if you want to get out of the bubble and have a look for organics or vulcansim sites, then check out MadRaptor's thread!: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...Fumarole-Location-Catalog-and-Data-Collection
 
Yeah, it's an interesting little nugget of information isn't it, especially in light of what's currently going on. I do wonder what the circumstances were around it. There's rumours that there were some kind of inter-species talks, but even if that happened, then that opens up all sorts of questions about what the Thargoids motives were for telling the human representatives about Soontill. Lots of possibilities spring to mind, but I think a lot of it would depend on whether the Thargoids knew that there genuinely was a lost base with advanced tech, or whether it was just considered a myth by them.

A few thoughts on possible motivations:

  • It may have been a 'closed box' type bargaining chip (as in 'you give us X and we give you Y. Y might turn out to be worthless or it might turn out to be incredibly valuable.')
  • It may have been a genuine bargaining chip.


(If so I wonder what they got in return? The cure for the Mycoid virus? The Mycoid itself? Something else?)

  1. They were genuinely asking for help and hoped we would help them find it. (If so, why? Desperation? A push on their part towards a better relationship between the species? Did they just think it was something that had an intrinsic value for them but no value to us? Something else?)
  2. They told us, but did so knowing we wouldn't tell them if we found it. (If so, was it done to boost humanity's tech, or was it done with the intention of introducing a power imbalance, knowing that could lead to war between human factions? Or even, was it done because whichever way it went would suit the Thargoids' purposes?)
  3. It was a trap, intended to lure us towards Guardian territory and a possible Human-Guardian (or Human-Guardian descendant/successor) conflict
  4. It was a trap intended to lure us towards Guardian territory, with the aim that the tech we discovered there would lead us into a similar path to self destruction as the Guardians.
  5. It was intended to lead us towards Guardian territory but not as a trap, rather in the hope that humanity would be able to access Guardian tech (which the Thargoids wouldn't be able to do), for any of the reasons already mentioned.
  6. It was just intended as a wild goose chase.

I agree on the getting answers to a certain extent, but I think I would rather that we are able to figure things out definitively ourselves rather than just get given an answer. I don't I would trust any PF approved answer that comes through Galnet anyway! ;)

Perhaps they sent us towards guardian tech, to then repel Klaxians while they fly away
 
The only “facts” I know of concerning the Mars relic, are that it’s so small it can fit in a child’s hand, and that it got lost over the centuries.
Oh, plus that was clearly of an alien origin.
 
I had not previously know of a dark wheel base being discovered!do you have a system? I haven't been able to find more info beyond this post.
They probably mean the planetary outpost with a minor faction ''Dark Wheel'' in Shinrarta Dezhra system
 
- Possibly unrelated but prior to that Cmdr Genar-Hofoen had discovered an antenna at a Dark Wheel base which appeared to be permanently orientated towards Col 70.
Reference link to this doesn't have anything related. Could you please elaborate?
 
The Dark Wheel also has bases and presence in LFT 926. Been to a couple of TDW places there. If you go there, visit the "Jailhouse Rock & Blues Bar " owned by TDW.
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Hello hello, old thread getting a sudden bit of attention!

@Jakan , @Mrrshal is correct, it's Neumann Camp in Shinrarta Dezhra.

Looks like the link to the specific post got broken in the forum change.

@Eckee the post will be in the thread that's being linked to, but can't fish it out at the moment. Basically though, Genar-Hofoen had found that the Antenna on the base was fixed in the direction of Col 70. IIRC this was prior to the discovery that the Unknown Probe used Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3 as a reference point.

Hope that covers the questions everyone had. I'm not on the forums much at the moment so have only just seen them, and it might be a while before I see any further ones. Fly safe, cmdrs! o7
 
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