Control Effects: These apply to all players; whether you Pledge or not. Includes 15% outfitting discount; trade, bounty and black market boosts.

[ape808]

Control Effects: These apply to all players; whether you Pledge or not. Includes 15% outfitting discount; trade, bounty and black market boosts.

I thought I'd draw a bit more attention to the passive bonuses given by the Powers, to dispel the myth that you need to pledge to benefit from PowerPlay. These passive effects may have big implications for both players and markets.


Control Effects are passive bonuses that apply to all systems within the influence of a Power.

They apply to all CMDRs, not just those who pledge to a faction or take part in powerplay.

Players who do not wish to get involved in powerplay may even be at an advantage, since they will not need to worry about extra hostility as they exploit the differences between factions.

Each Power has a unique set of effects that apply to the stations within their borders, that can include:

• 15% outfitting discount (Li Yong-Rui) and 10% Imperial ship price discounts (Patreus)
• 5% to 10% boosts for buy or sell prices of certain commodity classes
• boosts to production and consumption of commodity classes
• increased payouts for bounties
• bonuses to black market trades
• increased fines for criminal activity
• boosts or reductions in minor faction influence
• boosts or reductions to system security

You can find a list of Control Effects for each of the 10 powers by viewing their "Stats" tab, or in these guides:

Text reference list:
http://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDanger...wer_control_effects_the_policies_and_bonuses/

Barking_Madness's Powerplay Player's Guide:
https://docs.google.com/presentatio...Em5ULsZ064bwHRPktN1eAub3Q0/present?slide=id.p

These effects will help add character and flavour to the map, allowing the Powers' leaders to display their ethos in practical ways.
Their differences may present interesting opportunities for exploiting one side against another.
It will mean changes to local economies as powers expand or fall, as well as changing how player groups can expand minor factions.
IMO it's the most impactful part of PowerPlay.


So, any thoughts on how these Control Effects may effect the game?
Has anyone been testing them out in practice?

 

[sasani]

This is really great info.

Quick question, when the price paid of a commodity is increased is it just the sell price and not the buy price? Same question for the cost of a commodity?

If not why the distinction between increase in price paid and cost...
If so does this mean that some systems will have practically the same buy and sell prices?

 

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[ape808]

This is really great info.

Quick question, when the price paid of a commodity is increased is it just the sell price and not the buy price? Same question for the cost of a commodity?

If not why the distinction between increase in price paid and cost...
If so does this mean that some systems will have practically the same buy and sell prices?

I was just summarising for brevity - "buy or sell prices" - so it depends. Each power is different, some effect buy price (Aisling), some effect sell price (Torval). Most also focus on boosting production and/or consumption of one specific type of commodity, but i don't know how that impacts prices.

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I just love this part :



So making 320Cr/ton instead of 280Cr/ton sure beats hauling nearby Palladium for 1100-1300Cr/ton, right ?
*oh wait*... it doesn't do jack, unless Animal Monitors are your only Trade for some wicked reason.

10% discount on imperial slaves or weapons is nothing to be sniffed at, especially when stacked with a 10% boost at a black market where they're illegal.

 

[Demiga]

Wait are you absolutely positive? I know of a power that has a very big increase in bounty payouts in ALL 3 major power systems under this powers influence. You mean to tell me that someone from another power can come into this sphere of influence and turn in bounties for the big increase? The same if I go to Patreus' influence to buy a ship at discount price? idk, it almost doesnt seem right. Why should my enemy from another power be able to reap the benefits from my powers' progress?

I guess If I look at it like that, if any powers are enemies, they would be red and wouldnt be allowed to dock at any of the stations...

 

[tomalus]

I just visited a system exploited by Zemina Torval, there is no discount on Islaves nor mined materials, the prices are exactly the same like before 1.3. 15500cr/t

The only place I saw it happen is on the capitol Synteini, where its 14000 but supply is 40t.


GEEES ok it works only in controlled systems... kind of bad because some of more interesting trade systems are exploited, and cant be changed from exploit to control.

 

[ape808]

I just visited a system exploited by Zemina Torval, there is no discount on Islaves nor mined materials, the prices are exactly the same like before 1.3. 15500cr/t

As per your edit, it only effects her control systems. Haven't tested that on in live, but it was working in Beta.

 

[Krieger]

And don't forget that some commodities are made illegal by some Powers if they take over a system. Some Powers also cause price changes on black markets or close them down entirely. So check for Power changes before embarking on a standard trade run that gave good profits before the take over.

 

[ape808]

Wait are you absolutely positive? I know of a power that has a very big increase in bounty payouts in ALL 3 major power systems under this powers influence. You mean to tell me that someone from another power can come into this sphere of influence and turn in bounties for the big increase? The same if I go to Patreus' influence to buy a ship at discount price? idk, it almost doesnt seem right. Why should my enemy from another power be able to reap the benefits from my powers' progress?

I guess If I look at it like that, if any powers are enemies, they would be red and wouldnt be allowed to dock at any of the stations...

Regarding bounties, the crime system changes mean that only local bounties (ones picked up in that system) can be handed in there.

With other effects, I have already made use of Li's outfitting discount without being aligned. I double checked prices compared to the Wiki on Friday, and they were consistent with a 15% reduction.

With docking at another's station, I didn't realise that was an issue - I thought only enemy ships were hostile?

edit: screenshot proof:

Spoiler

and wiki for comparison:
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Frame_Shift_Drive

example, wiki lists A4 at 1.610 Million cr, screenshot shows A4 at 1.368 million cr

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And don't forget that some commodities are made illegal by some Powers if they take over a system. Some Powers also cause price changes on black markets or close them down entirely. So check for Power changes before embarking on a standard trade run that gave good profits before the take over.

The illegal/legal goods changes seem to have been removed after beta - at least, those effects are now missing from the stats page. Hopefully they will come back.

 

[ape808]

Quick bump to help gather any player experiences with 1.3.01 .

 

[Mephane]

Wait are you absolutely positive? I know of a power that has a very big increase in bounty payouts in ALL 3 major power systems under this powers influence. You mean to tell me that someone from another power can come into this sphere of influence and turn in bounties for the big increase? The same if I go to Patreus' influence to buy a ship at discount price? idk, it almost doesnt seem right. Why should my enemy from another power be able to reap the benefits from my powers' progress?

I guess If I look at it like that, if any powers are enemies, they would be red and wouldnt be allowed to dock at any of the stations...

Because the powers don't directly own the systems, planets, stations, shipyards. The minor factions do. The powers just have a strong influence on their control systems and a weak influence on the exploited systems, and benefit economically (CC is basically an abstraction of equipment, personnel and resources that the power extract from these systems).

 

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[M. Grey]

So the Power effects do apply to all, not only to the ones who pledged? Guess it's worth the 180 Ly travel to exchange the parts in my A-fitted Python.