Corrupt Federals

medwyn

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These guys have thick skin on their faces!
I was hanging around a nav beacon to explain my attitude towards some pirates and it went really well. Between fights once I became aware of my shield melting slowly under a few shots.
Turned around and scanned the attacker - he was one of the security service guys flying an Eagle.
What was he thinking? I checked my status: clean like a newborn. He was clean too after these shots. Ok, he might stop.
I engaged to another fight with a pirate and the Fed service came to my aid - that's correct. (One of the Fed Security Service guys was piloting an Anaconda! Their budget might need a transparency check...)
Fight over, pirate in Asp exploded.
That Eagle came upon me again. Not that strongly but he was definitely shooting at me. Quick check, he's clean, I was clean. Though this guy was not playing nicely.
Ok, let's return the fire.
I became wanted immediately. And he was still clean. The Eagle increased his firepower right there and I saw the other guy in the Anaconda turning at me.

All energy to shields, hardpoints retracted, FSD charged - let's go...
I landed at the next station and paid my bounty. But I'll never forget that little barking chihuahua who was so happy to abuse the situation with the power of the Fed law behind him.
I may leave this corrupted space soon... :)
 

Wonne

W
Not Corrupt, more like an misplaced sense of loyalty.

This kind of thing happens fairly often, an it keeped bugging me. Maybe you noticed that the game has some kind of temp reputaion system on top of the normal one. Kill Wanteds of one faction an the whole faction becomes red for you (and escortvessels of that faction will shoot you on sight!). Same thing seems to happen to the Cops if you go after Wanteds that are in their Faction or Subfaction.

Dont engage them, simply FSD out and go back in, everything will be back to normal and the temp reputation is reseted.
 

Wonne

W
It gets better when you get Friendly with one of the mainfactions and then hunt in their systems, simply dont shoot anything green and this kind of thing never happens. Untill then either live with it, or make a list of factions you dont want to shoot and check every target carefully.
 

S~P

S
The ship probably belonged to the same faction as the police, in which case they will attack, even though you are clean. This is what don't make sense to me, ship is 'wanted' by the same faction they are affiliated with. Get this all the time at resource extraction sites.
 

Wonne

W
Must not be the same faction, often you have 4-5 factions in a system and 2 or more are for example affiliated with the Feds, in this case, shooting one oft the affiliated Fed Factions will trigger this bug or feature.
 

AtomicFrawg

AtomicFrawg
also if you get friendly with another faction your rep goes down with the other. Example, I was friendly with Mother Gia in Sol and picked up a few missions for Fed Congress. I became friendly with Congress and went neutral with Mother. Now I know this, I Play for what ever faction pays me the most at any given time. I play more as a mercenary free agent rather than a bounty hunter like I intended. :)
 

Peyglo

Peyglo
It's the same with the Empire, plenty of times when I've had to make a hasty exit after a bounty kill because the Navy patrols were still trigger happy. One even destroyed my thrusters and canopy and just seemed to leave me there to suffocate.
 

S~P

S
Darth-Simba said:
Getting "green" with a faction is a task in itself. I have done loads and am still neutral.
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Not all missions will improve rep, its usually worth taking missions that don't offer pay, they increase rep faster. I'm allied with a couple of factions and friendly with a couple more. Allied faction also offer higher paying mission as well, often get 100-200k missions now.
 

el_bloom

el_bloom
Ships shooting you when you are clean should be wanted immediately. NPCs too !!! (as long as you have "report crimes against me" turned on)

This silly behaviour should´ve been dealt with a long time ago.
 

Wonne

W
el_bloom said:
Ships shooting you when you are clean should be wanted immediately. NPCs too !!! (as long as you have "report crimes against me" turned on)

This silly behaviour should´ve been dealt with a long time ago.
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They are. Only "Police" can shoot you without getting wanted. For a time in Beta they got Wanted too, but i guess they had to disable it because of to many blue on blue fire from the cops themselfs.
 

rupok

R
This happened to me as well. I think its a bug, Its always the eagles. I just jump out of nav beacon and back in again.
 

Wonne

W
Its not really a bug. Its an unintented sideeffect of a feature. I think the idea was to allow Factions that you are crurrently not unfriendly or hostile to, to retaliate against you. Its working fine for the Wingmen you sometimes see for bigger freighters. Why the same mechanic works for the cops i dont know. This is around a long time. Beta 2 i think. From what i know FD knows about it, but it seems hard to fix (its something deep in the reputationsystem).

Its a nice example for a complex system doing strange things :)
 
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