Could T Tauri stars not look indistinguishable from scoopable stars?

DarthMarth · Dec 22, 2015

In my first long trek outside the Bubble, I have noticed that some T Tauri type stars look just like main sequence stars. I don't notice they aren't until I try to scoop them and get nothing. Is there a scientific explanation for how they could look just like main sequence stars but not have a usable hydrogen atmosphere? Could they be changed somehow to set them more apart visually?

What I'm talking about: the reddish star in this image is not scoopable; the similar-looking (apart from the size difference) star in this image is.

CTCParadox · Dec 22, 2015

Many have extremely powerful stellar winds; some eject gas in high-velocity bipolar jets.

It seems odd that T Tauris are not scoopable.
They are supposed to eject massive amounts of gas and have huge circumstellar disks.
Seems like an ideal candidate for scooping.

CMDR CTCParadox

CMDR Byr Goefin · Dec 22, 2015

They do tend to have a lot of dust still about. Maybe that makes scooping too inefficient. Not enough of the pure hydrogen we want.

CTCParadox · Dec 22, 2015

Rgconner said:
They do tend to have a lot of dust still about. Maybe that makes scooping too inefficient. Not enough of the pure hydrogen we want.

Could be.

Would be cool if they added the dust and gas for T Tauri's in game.
Then it would be blindingly obvious when you jumped to one.

CMDR CTCParadox

OZYMANDlUS · Dec 22, 2015

DarthMarth said:
In my first long trek outside the Bubble, I have noticed that some T Tauri type stars look just like main sequence stars. I don't notice they aren't until I try to scoop them and get nothing. Is there a scientific explanation for how they could look just like main sequence stars but not have a usable hydrogen atmosphere? Could they be changed somehow to set them more apart visually?

What I'm talking about: the reddish star in this image is not scoopable; the similar-looking (apart from the size difference) star in this image is.

T Tauri stars are the young stars to be that will fall into the F,G,K, & M class of the main sequence. Near the end of their formation period before they have completely finished contraction into their future class; they will resemble what they will become. The game does not delineate a gray area. It is either finished and a main sequence or not. Herbig stars are the T Tauri equivalent for your O,B, & A. I hope this helps some. You could always wait for the 100+ thousand years so you can scoop the doppleganger T Tauri stars as they finish and become their main sequence stars.

-Ozy

Cross · Dec 23, 2015

They really ought to be scoop-able; strong stellar winds are a defining characteristic of T-Tauri stars. Heck, they should have extra-wide scoop-able regions compared to normal stars; it would give them some actual in-universe use. Huge orbiting fuel-extraction stations or something.

ChaosCloud · Dec 28, 2015

Rgconner said:
They do tend to have a lot of dust still about. Maybe that makes scooping too inefficient. Not enough of the pure hydrogen we want.

It'd be great if that (should it be the reason and if I'd call it even a valid one) would be shown visually too.
What helped me when I need fuel was to set the startype filter view to the KGBFOAM stars, so I can see at a glance where the next petrol station is.

Doesn't help when you jump into a system but in that case, go with 25% up to it and if the radar indicator turns red before you hear the scoop kick in then just get away quickly.
And don't even bother with tiny bright ones, they just want to outright kill you.

Cyberneticist · Dec 28, 2015

Somewhat OT: Weren't you able to scoop from gas giants in Frontier?

Shotgun Jack · Dec 29, 2015

Cyberneticist said:
Somewhat OT: Weren't you able to scoop from gas giants in Frontier?

Pretty sure you were not, but then again it's over 20 years I played it....

Fendalton · Jan 4, 2016

I know how you feel.

Malic · Jan 4, 2016

They don't create the fuel that we need because they are not old enough. The ones that have color shifted toward the more orange color that you are confusing with a scoopable star.. wait there a few more million years and it will be ready.

the colors are accurate, that is not going to change, and if you are having difficulty remember KGBFOAM are the scoopable stars. Set the map to only show those and make sure your solid fuel line can reach them as you jump across the galaxy.

Heavensburn · Jan 4, 2016

DarthMarth said:
In my first long trek outside the Bubble, I have noticed that some T Tauri type stars look just like main sequence stars. I don't notice they aren't until I try to scoop them and get nothing. Is there a scientific explanation for how they could look just like main sequence stars but not have a usable hydrogen atmosphere? Could they be changed somehow to set them more apart visually?

"Scan it before you scoop it". Problem solved.