Couple Quick Questions About Planetary Sites

[Deleted member 166264]

1) Are the biological and geological sites ever different on a planet? I imagine the geological ones wouldn't be, but I don't know if hopping from biological site to biological site would be worth it.

2) A few days ago I was at a Thargoid barnacle site in the Coalsack nebula. I collected all the materials there and then scanned the center thing for the codex entry. As soon as I completed the scan I got an incoming Thargoid wake warning so I hightailed it back to my ship to try to get out of there. It did the shut-down attack, but then proceeded to ignore me to collect something out of the center thing. I thought it would attack so once my ship came back online I boosted away, until I realized what it was doing. I turned around in an attempt to get some scans in, but it waked out before I could get any. Since then I have tried to repeat the event at a couple different barnacle sites without luck. Was this event a one-time thing or is it random or do I have to wait a while longer before I can do it again?

 

[Factabulous]

Are the biological and geological sites ever different on a planet?

yes

is it random

this

 

[CMDR SleepyDelegate]

Good question... I tried couple of times to find different bio signals on one planet by visiting all of the sites, but they were always the same... Maybe there is some slim chance, that one day you will find a planet, where there are two or more different life forms on one planet, but so far I didn't get lucky... Same goes for Geo signals... So far always the same on one planet...

Regarding the Thargoids, lucky you... Too bad you ran away and missed the chance to scan them... I got interdicted by Thargoids on my way from a Thargoid site and decided to stay put and just watch and see... Scanned all three of them after my ship came online again, flew in a formation with them for roughly 5 minutes, it was kind of cool...

 

[marx]

If a planet meets all the criteria for more than one kind of surface life, you'll find more than one. There are places that can achieve this, especially those with brain trees. Unfortunately, there's no way of telling from orbit what kind of biological POI you're going to be dropping on, so it might take several tries before you find all that are present.
Thus, the easiest way to tell if a planet might have more than one form of life is to look up the requirements on the Codex, and match them on the planet. It's probably easier to look at a list collating all of them, however.

 

[Deleted member 166264]

Regarding the Thargoids, lucky you... Too bad you ran away and missed the chance to scan them...

Not really. I later got interdicted and managed to hook one with a research limpet. My conda was at 3% by the time I was able to get away.

 

[varonica]

Good question... I tried couple of times to find different bio signals on one planet by visiting all of the sites, but they were always the same... Maybe there is some slim chance, that one day you will find a planet, where there are two or more different life forms on one planet, but so far I didn't get lucky... Same goes for Geo signals... So far always the same on one planet...

If you are in a nebula with Guardian Ruins there's a good chance you will find both Brain Trees and Bark Cones on the same body because they both fit the area criteria, but if it just a nebula outside the guardian zones then you will probably only find bark mounds.

 

[marx]

If you are in a nebula with Guardian Ruins there's a good chance you will find both Brain Trees and Bark Cones on the same body because they both fit the area criteria, but if it just a nebula outside the guardian zones then you will probably only find bark mounds.

If they meet multiple criteria, you can also find more than one kind of brain trees on a planet.

Theoretically, the maximum could be five types of biological POIs: in the Norma Expanse region, a Metal-Rich planet with volcanism, in the 300 - 500 K temperature range, in an A star system with an ELW / GGWL / WGWL present, near the Guardian nebula. In this case, you'd get: amphora plants, bark mounds, aureum and puniceum brain trees, and rubeum bioluminescent anemones. (Theoretically, you could get ostrinum brain trees as well, but this region doesn't appear to have them. Other regions that do might not have amphora plants and/or bark mounds... not to mention brain trees.)
I wonder if there's one that fulfills all of these though. Both bark mounds and brain trees require the nebula to be close by (100 ly for both, I think), so the number of systems you can look in are quite limited.

Oh, and sinuous tubers could also be a factor, but last time I checked, the tuber areas don't overlap the brain tree areas, and the Codex is too bugged with regards to them that it'd be too unreliable.

 

[Alec Turner]

1) Are the biological and geological sites ever different on a planet? I imagine the geological ones wouldn't be, but I don't know if hopping from biological site to biological site would be worth it.

Good question... I tried couple of times to find different bio signals on one planet by visiting all of the sites, but they were always the same... Maybe there is some slim chance, that one day you will find a planet, where there are two or more different life forms on one planet, but so far I didn't get lucky... Same goes for Geo signals... So far always the same on one planet...

Just to confirm what Factabulous said, yes - it's definitely possible to find different biological sites on the same planet (and I assume the same is true for geological). We had a Buckyball Race last year called "Signs of Life" which involved finding as many different life signs as possible within a fixed time period. Most of the winning entries utilised several places with multiple different types on the same planet.

 

[Susanna]

yes

You are saying that say, there are 10 bio sites on a planet, that there is a chance that some of these will be different bio sites? E.g. Brain trees and pumpkin sites? Any stats on this probability please? Because I've never seen this happen. All bio sites on a planet are the same kind. Even within a system with multiple bio sites they are all the same type (e.g. Crystalline Shards). Although they will have different materials dependent upon each planets mats.

 

[Susanna]

Just to confirm what Factabulous said, yes - it's definitely possible to find different biological sites on the same planet (and I assume the same is true for geological). We had a Buckyball Race last year called "Signs of Life" which involved finding as many different life signs as possible within a fixed time period. Most of the winning entries utilised several places with multiple different types on the same planet.

Interesting... I've just never seen it!

 

[Factabulous]

You are saying that say, there are 10 bio sites on a planet, that there is a chance that some of these will be different bio sites? E.g. Brain trees and pumpkin sites? Any stats on this probability please? Because I've never seen this happen. All bio sites on a planet are the same kind. Even within a system with multiple bio sites they are all the same type (e.g. Crystalline Shards). Although they will have different materials dependent upon each planets mats.

You should read the thread.

 

[Alec Turner]

Interesting... I've just never seen it!

Actually I now realise it was a slightly different situation for that race (mostly finding one variety of brain tree at one site and a different variety of brain tree at another site) so probably not quite what you meant.

 

[Susanna]

Actually I now realise it was a slightly different situation for that race (mostly finding one variety of brain tree at one site and a different variety of brain tree at another site) so probably not quite what you meant.

Ah yes, I've seen different variants of something in the same location... Not really a completely different biological entity though.

 

[varonica]

You are saying that say, there are 10 bio sites on a planet, that there is a chance that some of these will be different bio sites? E.g. Brain trees and pumpkin sites?

A can confirm at least one instance, probably more, that was before the codex was out so I don't know whether that has changed, but there's really no reason it should, Brain Trees and Bark Cones on one body in a nebula.

 

[Spacerschoice-00]

1: geological sites can have more than 1 type on same planet, at different sites. I found fumeral and gas vents on same planet or sometimes geyser and some other type. But it's usually same kind as what's listed on system map. Only time I saw different was iron magma on system map had some type of sulphur type sites.