General / Off-Topic Craziest Idea ever?

Back in medieval times they used to bleed people. What if they were right?

In the early 2000's US scientists tried connecting an old mouse up to a young mouse. Surgically- by joining the blood vessels.
As the new Siamese Twins shared their blood, the young one got older, and the old one--- got younger. This was thought to be impossible at the time, making something younger.
But that isn't the crazy idea yet.

At first the idea that there might be something in young blood that stopped ageing took off. This is the perpetual thinking of the Pharmaceutical Industry- find something to sell.
Some individuals got convinced:
Yep, if you have the resources, you can try anything.

Unfortunately for creepy old billionaires, but probably good for everybody under 25, this idea didn't pan out. Vampirism isn't real.
“I think it will take some time for people to really give up the idea that that young plasma contains rejuvenation molecules, or silver bullets, for aging,” said Dobri Kiprov, a medical director of Apheresis Care Group

Bummer for anyone who is thinking about staking some billionaires. I mean - with a stake. The idea began to lose steam.

Recently, the US Food and Drug Administration made a somewhat strange request: please don’t buy transfusions of young blood plasma to improve your health. The announcement is a conclusion of sorts to years-long hype over the tantalizing possibility that the fountain of youth can be found in the bodies of other people.

So... why did that mouse get younger?
Well it seems that it's OLD blood that makes things get older. ( hence, that young mouse everybody forgot about)
The obvious idea is now obvious. What happens if you take an old person, and change out their blood completely? Well they would die, of course, nobody survives having all their blood taken out. No red cells to move oxygen around.

Well there's some good news. The red cells don't affect ageing. It's the liquid they are in.
We can keep the cells, just change out the liquid, which is possible by a series of dilutions. So has anybody been crazy enough to try this?

Yes.

Last year when everybody was only reading about lockdowns, pandemics and new regulations, Irina Conboy and her team managed to pull off this stunt in mice.
The mice got younger.

By Christmas, 2020, people were starting to try it themselves. On themselves.

For most people this procedure is past the outer limits of practicality as a self-experiment. It requires a good amount of scientific or medical knowledge, familiarity with the latest research on the topic, and cooperative physicians.
By now, if you know me, you will realise that this is zero impediment for me. But No, I didn't. Waiting to see results first.

Here are the results from a related trial:
This trial suggests that Plasma Exchange with albumin replacement could slow cognitive and functional decline in Alzheimer's Disease, although further studies are warranted.
Matches the mouse results:

The effect is partially due to albumin's property as an antioxidant. You know how they say a vitamin C tablet is a good antioxidant? Imagine having gallons of the stuff circulating instead, in place of inflammatory old plasma. It reverses the biological age, according to this study:

The treatment more than halved the epigenetic ages of blood, heart, and liver tissue. A less pronounced, but statistically significant, rejuvenation effect could be observed in the hypothalamus. The treatment was accompanied by progressive improvement in the function of these organs as ascertained through numerous biochemical/physiological biomarkers and behavioral responses to assess cognitive functions. Cellular senescence, which is not associated with epigenetic aging, was also considerably reduced in vital organs. Overall, this study demonstrates that a plasma-derived treatment markedly reverses aging according to epigenetic clocks and benchmark biomarkers of aging.
 
Does this mean a health benefit resulting from being a regular blood donor, or is that too little of an “oil change” at too much of a time separation to be of use?
 
What childhood ambitions must one have to grow up to be someone who surgically splices mice together just to see what happens. Sounds like the backstory to a serial killer novel :sick:
 
Does this mean a health benefit resulting from being a regular blood donor, or is that too little of an “oil change” at too much of a time separation to be of use?

We ought to be able to tell if regular donors get a specific benefit, but I can't find any retrospective analysis.

This says that donors do live longer, but the reasons are unclear. Could be selection bias, since only healthy people are regular donors.
Like the oil change concept though.
 
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Dr. Dobri Kiprov has been doing plasma exchange treatment for approved conditions at an apheresis centre, and is quoted in the OP as an expert debunking the fresh new blood transfusion idea.

He's featured in a related interview, along with some patient testimonials. What was striking was the before and after images of the actual plasma taken out.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnv0fcr_Hd4
 
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My friend's crazy idea, we were going to go to a club, we decided to dress unusually, we thought about what to buy and decided on hanfu this chinese dress, it was very scary to go to a club I think we'll get beaten up, but it was really fun and crazy, only this was our motive to go there, tonight I think we will have a lot of adventures.
 
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Vampirism isnt real?
What about cannabalism?

These billionaires have been doing it for years.
Follow the white rabbit.

o7
 
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