Curious about Ed Market connector.

Drelthar

Drelthar
It lives here

http://edcodex.info/?m=tools&entry=150

And I've heard good things, however, it says

Setup
The first time that you run the app you are prompted for your username and password. This is the same username and password combination that you use to log into the Elite: Dangerous launcher, and is required so that the Frontier servers can send the app your data and the data for the station that you are docked at.

This is just... super dodgy to me.

Can anyone assure me this is ok? because it doesn't seem like the soundest plan to enter my username and password into a third party site/app.

What's the deal here? Is it encrypted or something? How is this not just giving my details to a third party?
 

Brian of Ardagh

B
Novo Mundus said:
It lives here

http://edcodex.info/?m=tools&entry=150

And I've heard good things, however, it says

Setup
The first time that you run the app you are prompted for your username and password. This is the same username and password combination that you use to log into the Elite: Dangerous launcher, and is required so that the Frontier servers can send the app your data and the data for the station that you are docked at.

This is just... super dodgy to me.

Can anyone assure me this is ok? because it doesn't seem like the soundest plan to enter my username and password into a third party site/app.

What's the deal here? Is it encrypted or something? How is this not just giving my details to a third party?
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EDMC does support encryption but, yes, it does have access to your Commander data. It would need to, given what it does. The choice is yours but lots of Commanders do use it. I guess FD doesn't support an API key that would allow third party apps to access your data without requiring your login credentials. I'm not an expert in this area so I could be wrong.
 

Bunkerkind Anni

Bunkerkind Anni
certain things are not written into the logs - AFAIK the Commodity market, outfitting and shipyard data of the stations you dock is only accessible using your account data.
its one of the reasons i don't use this tool
 

askavir

askavir
It needs your credentials to access the data api on your behalf. It's legit, the market connector will request the ED data api to identify your account by sending it your credentials, and then you'll eceive an email from FD with a confirmation code to confirm that you allow market connector to fetch your game data (like where you are, or the data from the system or station where you are).

The market connector is also open-source (it's on github), so if it was dodgy people would have already found out (and FD wouldn't allow it to use the data api).

It will also make your life a whole lot easier. You can additionally connect EDDN, Inara, etc to the market connector with plugins (there are a ton of plugins, including planetary navigation with an overlay that shows on the ship GUI, and many others). Inara will then show you a ton of things, like what modules you can craft with your current materials, or what materials you're still missing to be able to craft any module. I highly recommend linking your Inara account to the market connector, it will make your life so much easier regarding getting info about all sorts of things.

Additionally, having the market connector means you'll be actively contributing to populate external tools with live data, like station outfitting, system info, market info, etc, to share with other players. That's how all the info on EDDB and other sites comes from.

Market connector brings you a whole new world of QoL into your game. I could no longer play without it.
 
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Drelthar

Drelthar
askavir said:
No.
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Thanks.

Open source part is most useful. Best way to make sure something isn't dodgy is allow everyone to poke around with it.

Cheers guys, I wanted to use it but didn't have all the info I needed.

It might be a good plan for the folks contributing to highlight this a bit more clearly as it doesn't mention how the user info is used really, it just says it needs you to type it in, without mentioning it's only locally stored, and then sent to a frontier approved system.

It just wasn't immediately apparent to me, and I tend to get overly paranoid.
 

Brian of Ardagh

B
Novo Mundus said:
Thanks.

Open source part is most useful. Best way to make sure something isn't dodgy is allow everyone to poke around with it.

Cheers guys, I wanted to use it but didn't have all the info I needed.

It might be a good plan for the folks contributing to highlight this a bit more clearly as it doesn't mention how the user info is used really, it just says it needs you to type it in, without mentioning it's only locally stored, and then sent to a frontier approved system.

It just wasn't immediately apparent to me, and I tend to get overly paranoid.
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I wouldn't say paranoid, more like being cautious. Good thing to be these days.
 

DNA-Decay

DNA-Decay
There’s a discord channel and a whole lot of other points of contact for EDMC.

The added utility is awesome.
I used to spend a dog’s age updating influence levels in the AEDC database, and keeping track of my stuff on INARA was a big slab of paperwork at the end of a session.

Now INARA has every material up dated, the engineering of every module in every ship is correct, their location.

When I get mission rewards now, I have my materials page on INARA open and I can see what I need and what I have plenty.
Yeah I can look it up in my ship’s inventory, but everything on one page. With no effort.

For me, the security risk is folks knowing where I am, and what I’m doing.
 

askavir

askavir
Novo Mundus said:
Thanks.

Open source part is most useful. Best way to make sure something isn't dodgy is allow everyone to poke around with it.

Cheers guys, I wanted to use it but didn't have all the info I needed.

It might be a good plan for the folks contributing to highlight this a bit more clearly as it doesn't mention how the user info is used really, it just says it needs you to type it in, without mentioning it's only locally stored, and then sent to a frontier approved system.

It just wasn't immediately apparent to me, and I tend to get overly paranoid.
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And usually with good reason, but in this particular case it's legit.
 

Bunkerkind Anni

Bunkerkind Anni
the good thing about inara is - it works without your login data.
you are not contributing in keeping the station data up2date, but you will have all your personal data updated that goes through the actual API.

i personally use EDDiscovery to keep my INARA profile up2date
 

Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
Bunkerkind Anni said:
certain things are not written into the logs - AFAIK the Commodity market, outfitting and shipyard data of the stations you dock is only accessible using your account data.
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This has been updated by Frontier (in 3.0, I think?) - commodity, outfitting and shipyard data is now available without the API just by reading journal files. EDDiscovery does it this way (though can also optionally use the API for commodities)

The catch is that the game only writes commodity/outfitting/shipyard data to the files if you specifically access that station service, whereas the API works just by docking at the station, so the API is still generally more convenient if you want to provide more comprehensive data.
 

Krash

Krash
I use EDMC to update several 3rd party sites that I'm dependent on:
Inara
EDSM
coriolis

Its hard to imagine ED without them.
 

Garris

Garris
Haven't had any problems myself. I Think its one of those essential tools that you need in game Trade computer extension uses it optionally so I need it.
When I first signed up I had doubts but as I don't store my RL card in FDs Store, worst that can happen is I lose a cartoon ship or 2. Not the end of the world.
 

evanevery

evanevery
Novo Mundus said:
It lives here

http://edcodex.info/?m=tools&entry=150

And I've heard good things, however, it says

Setup
The first time that you run the app you are prompted for your username and password. This is the same username and password combination that you use to log into the Elite: Dangerous launcher, and is required so that the Frontier servers can send the app your data and the data for the station that you are docked at.

This is just... super dodgy to me.

Can anyone assure me this is ok? because it doesn't seem like the soundest plan to enter my username and password into a third party site/app.

What's the deal here? Is it encrypted or something? How is this not just giving my details to a third party?
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Um, are you using the same name and password on your ED account that you use for online banking?

Please PM me your ED Login Credentials and the URL's for any online commerce sites you use and I'll check them out for you...
 

Krash

Krash
evanevery said:
Um, are you using the same name and password on your ED account that you use for online banking?

Please PM me your ED Login Credentials and the URL's for any online commerce sites you use and I'll check them out for you...
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I was thinking the same thing when I read the OP's post. I don't even use the same computer for gaming and banking.
 

Drelthar

Drelthar
evanevery said:
Um, are you using the same name and password on your ED account that you use for online banking?

Please PM me your ED Login Credentials and the URL's for any online commerce sites you use and I'll check them out for you...
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Haha.

Nah, all my passwords are managed encrypted and 2 factored thanks.

I just didn't like the prospect of transmitting access to my elite account across the internet very much.

The lifetime expansion pass was pretty expensive for me, ya know?
 
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