Current mining ruins game concept.

xcyber

xcyber
Hello,

This game is just now released and still may change without difficulty in the usual gameplay. The first thing I recommended to add new features for collecting ore while time from release allow to do this. (I dont know why beta players not suggest it.)

There is 3000 year with lasers, energy shields, warp drives, but I must collect ore by cargo scoop? Are you sirious? Its ok for fighters or small ships, but not for medium industry vessels. And this is most unlogic thing which ruins game setting. I believe that there must be an alternative way of collecting ore.

1. Tractor beam.
2. Particles of ore must be transfered by special mining beam.

Thanx.
 

Altissimus

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xcyber said:
Hello,

This game is just now released and still may change without difficulty in the usual gameplay. The first thing I recommended to add new features for collecting ore while time from release allow to do this. (I dont know why beta players not suggest it.)

There is 3000 year with lasers, energy shields, warp drives, but I must collect ore by cargo scoop? Are you sirious? Its ok for fighters or small ships, but not for medium industry vessels. And this is most unlogic thing which ruins game setting. I believe that there must be an alternative way of collecting ore.

1. Tractor beam.
2. Particles of ore must be transfered by special mining beam.

Thanx.
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Implementing what you suggest would seriously unbalance mining as a source of income, unless they also significantly reduced the income from mining, which would simply result I a higher cost of entry.

We are not flying year 3300 industrial strip miners. Think of us as more like gifted amateurs, "having a go" with the tools available to us.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Are they serious? No, they are Sirius. :-D

But the reason is it adds another mini-game. Sure, they could make it like a tractor beam and voila, its in your hold, but then the minigame would be lost.
 

Kayweg

Kayweg
xcyber said:
Hello,

This game is just now released and still may change without difficulty in the usual gameplay. The first thing I recommended to add new features for collecting ore while time from release allow to do this. (I dont know why beta players not suggest it.)

There is 3000 year with lasers, energy shields, warp drives, but I must collect ore by cargo scoop? Are you sirious? Its ok for fighters or small ships, but not for medium industry vessels. And this is most unlogic thing which ruins game setting. I believe that there must be an alternative way of collecting ore.

1. Tractor beam.
2. Particles of ore must be transfered by special mining beam.

Thanx.
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What makes you think this HASN'T been suggested during beta ? And iirc widely been considered undesireable.

It has been stated by someone from FD that the current mining model is just the bare minimum of what they wanted it to be. (can't find it now, some1 please link the source ?)

Good chance we'll see changes and improvements to mining.
 

Ghost1

Ghost1
xcyber said:
Hello,

This game is just now released and still may change without difficulty in the usual gameplay. The first thing I recommended to add new features for collecting ore while time from release allow to do this. (I dont know why beta players not suggest it.)

There is 3000 year with lasers, energy shields, warp drives, but I must collect ore by cargo scoop? Are you sirious? Its ok for fighters or small ships, but not for medium industry vessels. And this is most unlogic thing which ruins game setting. I believe that there must be an alternative way of collecting ore.

1. Tractor beam.
2. Particles of ore must be transfered by special mining beam.

Thanx.
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i agree with you, i think we are getting something to help with this. I think we are getting collector drones and maybe tractor beams.
 

Dibbler666

Dibbler666
Hey and while they're at it why dont they introduce automated bots that do all the work for you, you know - identify which asteroides contain the best material and mine it for you.. That way you wont have to play and can rack up a huge credit balance.
 

Altissimus

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ozlizard said:
Where did you pull this from LOL!
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Because we aren't low-paid employees of gargantuan mining corporations operating enormous barges that cost billions to buy and that absorb whole asteroids and spit out dust that are surely in use in this day and age (though maybe haven't been implemented yet) :)
 

talshiarr

talshiarr
Dibbler666 said:
Hey and while they're at it why dont they introduce automated bots that do all the work for you, you know - identify which asteroides contain the best material and mine it for you.. That way you wont have to play and can rack up a huge credit balance.
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Why be absurd? No one is asking for that. FD put in the barest possible mining implementation to start with and there's no reason to be defensive about the status quo. I don't want it automated any further than a couple of drones to round up the pieces blasted off and bring them to the refinery which a player would have to manage while scanning the quality of additional asteroids.
 

xcyber

xcyber
Loki_666 said:
Are they serious? No, they are Sirius. :-D

But the reason is it adds another mini-game. Sure, they could make it like a tractor beam and voila, its in your hold, but then the minigame would be lost.
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Minigames is OK, but not in games like this. Devs forced us to do pew-pew in space, but I hope they will add all things what we love in space sims - normal mining, trading with other players, fleets, production and blueprints. Because games like this released very rarely, but if they released, they must cover all auditorium. For example I like mining and exploration and dont like pew-pew. Someone like deep space exploration. I hope game will be interested to all space simers in future. :)
 

dreadlord

dreadlord
Maybe FD could introduce collection drones to collect ejected ore only, not mine it? Possible Suggestion lol
 
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Armante

Armante
xcyber said:
Hello,

This game is just now released and still may change without difficulty in the usual gameplay. The first thing I recommended to add new features for collecting ore while time from release allow to do this. (I dont know why beta players not suggest it.)

There is 3000 year with lasers, energy shields, warp drives, but I must collect ore by cargo scoop? Are you sirious? Its ok for fighters or small ships, but not for medium industry vessels. And this is most unlogic thing which ruins game setting. I believe that there must be an alternative way of collecting ore.

1. Tractor beam.
2. Particles of ore must be transfered by special mining beam.

Thanx.
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It was suggested A LOT by beta testers. I suggest you do a search through the forums before you make a post like this. There are MANY pages discussing this topic already.

TL;DR No tractor beams, maybe drones
 

Connor Caple

Connor Caple
Dibbler666 said:
Hey and while they're at it why dont they introduce automated bots that do all the work for you, you know - identify which asteroides contain the best material and mine it for you.. That way you wont have to play and can rack up a huge credit balance.
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... and why would it matter if they did? This is what ruins ELITE - the 'multiplayer' mindset. "You can make money faster than me and you don't pew-pew - wah wah wah."

I wanted a SINGLE PLAYER game for a reason, so I could get away from all this crap in other MMOs. Sheesh...
 

Weps

Weps
Mining drones are coming, hopefully in 2015. FDEV have stated many times that they will improve on all game mechanics, and mining drones are mentioned in the DDA.

Until then, work on those throttle controls. If the chunks of asteroid come out in a straight line, it's fairly easy to scoop them. What I miss more than mining drones is actually a mining scanner to show me the contents of an asteroid without me having to stop and mine one single chunk to find out.
 
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