Dear Albino Breeding and Erdmännchen Inc: Thanks for being fair franchise players :)

I wish there was a favorite list for zoos. I got one veery low priced but awesome Springbox albino boy and a very fair priced female in regular color from these player zoos. So, if you read this: Thanks for giving me a bit of my believe in game-player humanity back. Rest assured your work in form of your animals will be well treated in my franchise. You made my day!
 
I bought a white lion, for a very fair price this evening (had my first albino born even from him and a normal lioness).
Forgot the name of the seller and sadly lost it like everything else in my saveapocalypse, but yes,
sometimes you got lucky.
(Not that i need luck, a bunch of CCs are all i got left^^)
 
I have zero cc now currently, on day 2 (real time) of my franchise ^^ But everything else is running fine, so I don't worry yet. I just hope we will get more of those fair players, who like to work as a community. At the moment, I am still figuering out a fair price system myself. All I know is that 30 CC for a albino spring bok with all his genes in the upper green is almost a christmas present.
The other spring bok had even higher genes (natural colored though) and was under 200 cc.. Also very fair for a very good female.
 
Yea thats the thing.
I understand why people complaining about high CC costs, and for some 1000-2000 is a very high price,
it was for me a week ago, too.
But then i saw that some of those animals are worth 1200-1800 CC when you release them to the wild.

Its a difficult one anyway with this butt-poor gamemechanic of anonymus massmarket.

I know that there are people with several puppy milly who have millions of cc, so i am tempted to get some of those with high prices.
Then again i know many players who play the game as it was advertised (never honestly planned, but advertised from frontiers marketing)... but everytime
i post the animals for low prices i feel like i just fed a boomer.

Ah well, good thing is, i don't got much to sell now anymore anyway.
 
I tried to reduce prices too, selling gold animals for fair price, but after I saw someone is reselling my animals, I gave up :c
 
Yeah I got a pretty decent Albino Lion Male for 300 which made my night. Managed to afford 2 females by refreshing the market constantly and finally there was a couple under 350. Completely wiped out my CC but they bred like rabbits and quite a lot of albinos. I released a couple of the poorer ones (non white) as I could get more a lot more CC than if posting in trade but the albinos and higher rated ones I posted for a little less than I’d get releasing to the wild to pass on the happiness.
But then my lions got old and I didn’t keep any. But going to start a new zoo and do it proper now that I have 19k CC so I’m hoping I can start how I want now and should be successful now I can have higher rated animals from the start.

I do definitely think there’s some improvements to be made there though with the system. It’s great releasing to the wild for obvious reasons and getting rewarded but it drives prices up in the market because it’s more worth releasing than reselling. And I’ve been caught out a few times in the market with refreshing and seeing a good deal, quickly buying it to then realise it’s within 6 months of elderly. But there’s no time to really waste with the market as it’s laggy and if you don’t rush you miss it!
 
Yeah I got a pretty decent Albino Lion Male for 300 which made my night. Managed to afford 2 females by refreshing the market constantly and finally there was a couple under 350. Completely wiped out my CC but they bred like rabbits and quite a lot of albinos. I released a couple of the poorer ones (non white) as I could get more a lot more CC than if posting in trade but the albinos and higher rated ones I posted for a little less than I’d get releasing to the wild to pass on the happiness.
But then my lions got old and I didn’t keep any. But going to start a new zoo and do it proper now that I have 19k CC so I’m hoping I can start how I want now and should be successful now I can have higher rated animals from the start.

I do definitely think there’s some improvements to be made there though with the system. It’s great releasing to the wild for obvious reasons and getting rewarded but it drives prices up in the market because it’s more worth releasing than reselling. And I’ve been caught out a few times in the market with refreshing and seeing a good deal, quickly buying it to then realise it’s within 6 months of elderly. But there’s no time to really waste with the market as it’s laggy and if you don’t rush you miss it!

Honestly one of my problems is people whining about things being too expensive when they have no idea of the value. You start a new franchise with, what 200c, and then when people see that 200cc isn't enough to buy even a single lion or something like that they whine that things are too expensive.

I'm happy you got some albinos for 350cc but that is a stupidly low and unrealistic price unless they had horrible stats. Just like 10kcc prices aren't healthy to the market, neither is 300cc prices. These animals are worth far more than that to release to the wild. Frankly I'm tired of going through the hassle of trying to sell things on the market just to have them sit there for an hour and clog up my trading center when I could have just released them to the wild immediately and gotten more for them.

People need to have realistic expectations on BOTH ends of the price range AND people need to understand that the design of the system is that they will NOT be able to buy high ticket animals right away. It is intended that you start off with more common animals at first and work your way up. Its called progression.
 
I don’t believe in any way, shape or form I “whined” about any sort of price. I simply stated I was lucky and received an albino lion for cheap.

I worked at it to get enough for the lions with peafowls and dogs then used lions to progress further. The point I was making is that if you get more for releasing to the wild then what’s the point in trading.

This system is flawed from the start anyway, anyone who continues to play will do nothing but gain CC to levels that buying animals for 10k will be nothing. And the only people that will affect is newer players that haven’t yet stored millions of CC.
 
I don’t believe in any way, shape or form I “whined” about any sort of price. I simply stated I was lucky and received an albino lion for cheap.
I wasn't saying you did. It was a broader statement and I quoted you because of how you pointed out the really cheap lions, that's all. Don't be so sensitive please :)
 
It's really not that hard, I've got about 90k credits from releasing animals. Just breed some cheap animals and then go from there. Tigers still sell for less on the market than they release for.
 
I got a pretty decent white tiger on the market for around 300 leafs. I appreciate the players selling them for that low amount. Though I agree that that tiger was definitely worth a lot more than I paid for it. I could have immediately released it to the wild for a solid profit if I wanted to. I wanted it for breeding, so I did not do that.
 
I'm getting a little annoyed about this moaning. What many don't see is that there is a lot of work in breeding 100% animals. With albinos it is even harder, because their fur colour is not the natural condition, but has to be bred.

For example: It took me 80 hours to get the first generation of Albino Bengal Tigers to 100%.

Albino Gorillas over 100 hours

I've been with the Tapirs for 150 hours, because they multiply super slowly.

Saltwater Crocodiles more than 80 hours

Grizzly Bears the same game.

etc. etc. etc. etc.

When other players and I stop constantly breeding new animals, avoid inbreeding, and at least keep the most important values up, the populations stop. A very good example: Because I just want to bring Albino Tapirs to 100%, I stopped breeding Albino Gorillas for 2 days and now look at the market. It's totally broken, the few white Gorillas you get have very modest values. That was actually simply impossible for this market to collapse. Slayer and I have put between 50 and 100 animals on the market, how this could happen is a mystery. But what is the consequence? Now I'm trying to bring Albino Gorillas with great values onto the market again.

So that you can also enjoy the animals. And yes, I would also like to have paid that reasonably. After all, I put a lot of love and time into these projects. And what do I get to read everywhere? Weeping all the time because the prices are too expensive.

I have a good thing for you. Buy cheap animals with modest values, breed them and when an albino hatches invest 100 hours of your lifetime.
 
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The trading system is so slow that I don't even bother posting animals in it. Having to post 1 animal at a time and researching how much is fair value is time consuming when you need to dump 20 animals.

And people are usually selling them below release to wild costs, so I just release to wild and earn the credits there and much faster.

The albinos are definitely market worthy because you want to share them with others but the other animals are just too tedious and time consuming.
 
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