I was actually just thinking this, too. My only concern would be: if an animal passes through the WE, would that be considered escaping? I guess a good compromise would be to put plants/rocks on the edges to make it seem like they can go through when the hotboxes wouldn't allow them to?
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Wouldn't it just work to surround the Exhibit with a Null Fence?
But animals can pass through null barriers unless you put some kind of other barrier, like thick plants or rocks or construction pieces
What Design are you exactly planning to achieve?Well, in the future, if we get certain species, like maybe for example a sloth. I'd want a kinda jungle house where guests are walking, they see a sloth, then a little capybara walks right by them, capuchins overhead.
My question is, if we build a null barrier, place a null WE within the null barrier, then if the animal crosses into the path of the WE, will it be considered an escape?
I doubt it would be considered as a Escape as long as the Exhibit is within the Borders of the Enclosure. If you plan on building a big House around it anyways, I don't really see how they could escape except maybe through the Entrance of the Building depending on how you build it
You definitely need to use natural barriers for the regular animals, particularly if they are not walkthrough-able. Rocks, the grass (can’t think if its name atm) turned upside down lowered into the ground, etc. Or use a U-shaped setup where the regular animals look like they are contained inhabitats, but the birds fly ”freely” (within the WE) around the guests looking at the habitat. I hope I can try this out tonight.
No - this was one of the first things I wanted to test. The setup you are describing is completely doable.
The capuchins here can move in and out of the WE freely, without it being an escape - the escape points here are the null barrier of the habitat because I set it up in a rush. If you were doing it properly, you could easily plug those gaps.
Wow, this keeps getting better and better… If Frontier would do something similar with water-filled exhibits, we could make aquariums and ponds with ducks or smaller fish and maybe have otters swim among them… getting completely carried away by happy dreams - better not getting my hopes up… 
The more complex it becomes, the more likely issues become. I am very happy with the bats for now!
The more complex it becomes, the more likely issues become. I am very happy with the bats for now!
Completely agree - both about flying birds and fully marine animals requiring aquariums.
Small exhibits (like we have had for nearly 3 years)
birds such as robins, sparrows, jays, finches and the like. You know, all the more common smaller type of birds. I'm totally fine
Fish such as smaller types of fish, jellyfish, crabs and what not. It's harder to explain "small fish" since it's all subject to what someone considers small, but let's say for reference, fish smaller than an adult human head.
Walk through exhibits or larger exhibits the size of the walk through exhibits - other freely flying birds and fish/marine animals that may be around half the size of an average adult human. Obviously the aquariums couldn't be walk through which is why I'd prefer something around the size of the walk through exhibits for those. Birds wise, this is where your toucans, birds of prey, hornbills, parrots/macaws would land. Fish such as koi, and other marine animals around that size. I guess that could be extended to cover marine animals up to the size of an adult human, but i'd be feeling like it would be too small for some of those.
Habitats/Large Aquariums. - for land habitats exactly as it is now. For large aquariums, we would also have the freedom to make them as large as we'd like. Habitat birds would be the birds that spend much of their time on the ground or in the water/water surface. The cranes, storks, swans, pelicans, etc. Frontier could get by on not having these fly, I think, though of course we'd all prefer that, if it's missing from these birds, that's fine with me personally. Think of the Red Crowned Crane for reference. for marine animals, anything over the size of an adult human.
Small exhibits (like we have had for nearly 3 years)
birds such as robins, sparrows, jays, finches and the like. You know, all the more common smaller type of birds. I'm totally fine
Fish such as smaller types of fish, jellyfish, crabs and what not. It's harder to explain "small fish" since it's all subject to what someone considers small, but let's say for reference, fish smaller than an adult human head.
Walk through exhibits or larger exhibits the size of the walk through exhibits - other freely flying birds and fish/marine animals that may be around half the size of an average adult human. Obviously the aquariums couldn't be walk through which is why I'd prefer something around the size of the walk through exhibits for those. Birds wise, this is where your toucans, birds of prey, hornbills, parrots/macaws would land. Fish such as koi, and other marine animals around that size. I guess that could be extended to cover marine animals up to the size of an adult human, but i'd be feeling like it would be too small for some of those.
Habitats/Large Aquariums. - for land habitats exactly as it is now. For large aquariums, we would also have the freedom to make them as large as we'd like. Habitat birds would be the birds that spend much of their time on the ground or in the water/water surface. The cranes, storks, swans, pelicans, etc. Frontier could get by on not having these fly, I think, though of course we'd all prefer that, if it's missing from these birds, that's fine with me personally. Think of the Red Crowned Crane for reference. for marine animals, anything over the size of an adult human.
I tried to remove all the tallest items and the ceiling in the exhibit to see how high the bats go without these things.
I don't know if I have seen all loops yet, but I think the highest I saw a bat go in it's loop was on the edge of 6m.
So even though it still has to be very tall, you can probably build a roof at 7m without any bats clipping through it
This could mean that even if this size stays the same for all species, not every animals has to use the full height/length of it depending on the enrichment items and ceiling you turn on/off
I don't know if I have seen all loops yet, but I think the highest I saw a bat go in it's loop was on the edge of 6m.
So even though it still has to be very tall, you can probably build a roof at 7m without any bats clipping through it
This could mean that even if this size stays the same for all species, not every animals has to use the full height/length of it depending on the enrichment items and ceiling you turn on/off
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