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I considered Facebook's buyout of Oculus when I was shopping for a headset. It was most definitely in the "cons" section of my pros and cons. I wasn't too keen on Facebook even before I heard about the obscene way he refers to his Facebook users.
If someone like me who has taken a dim view of Facebook for years can decide to purchase an Oculus headset I doubt if it will have much of an effect on those who have just heard about the Cambridge Analytical story.
Stock price crash I'm not so sure about. Dead cat bounce maybe?
If someone like me who has taken a dim view of Facebook for years can decide to purchase an Oculus headset I doubt if it will have much of an effect on those who have just heard about the Cambridge Analytical story.
Stock price crash I'm not so sure about. Dead cat bounce maybe?
I suggest looking at the actual numbers not just the hyped up media articles.
Yeah this has been a body blow for Facebook. A well deserved one. Anyone with half a clue of what and how they work should be more surprised this hasn't happened before or more often.
Information security, is not a concept I have ever associated with Facebook.
As for those who now hit the delete button for this are not doing so out of moral outrage, they are mostly sheeple following whatever is vogue this week.
Most of them will be back in a month.
A few million has left yes. But they still have a few billion users.
The stock price is a blow. But far far far from a killing one like some articles has been hyping.
It's barely a few percentages drop.
And it's already starting to climb back a little.
Sadly fact is people will still need Facebook, and Facebook will still be making a lot of money.
personally I view any personal input given to a social media site, or forum for that matter, like a police investigation.
Basically:
Anything you say or do will be used against you.
But not in a court of law. But by any corporation or greedy sack of bones out to make a dollar.
Yeah this has been a body blow for Facebook. A well deserved one. Anyone with half a clue of what and how they work should be more surprised this hasn't happened before or more often.
Information security, is not a concept I have ever associated with Facebook.
As for those who now hit the delete button for this are not doing so out of moral outrage, they are mostly sheeple following whatever is vogue this week.
Most of them will be back in a month.
A few million has left yes. But they still have a few billion users.
The stock price is a blow. But far far far from a killing one like some articles has been hyping.
It's barely a few percentages drop.
And it's already starting to climb back a little.
Sadly fact is people will still need Facebook, and Facebook will still be making a lot of money.
personally I view any personal input given to a social media site, or forum for that matter, like a police investigation.
Basically:
Anything you say or do will be used against you.
But not in a court of law. But by any corporation or greedy sack of bones out to make a dollar.
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this is essentially an argument between politicians why on earth would we want to join in?
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They're far more likely to be regulated now, which would be a tremendous blow to this industry at large.
And you under-estimate people. Most do not enjoy being duped, and while the more tech-savy might have been aware of what this industry was actually doing (though I suspect even many ardent experts were surprised at the sheer scope and audacity of Cambridge Analytica), that doesn't mean that people who aren't tech experts are stupid.
Nothing ever presented to me on Facebook has altered my political views. The weak minded are there to be influenced so why shouldn't facebook join in with the rest of the media? It takes a very special snowflake indeed to get all bedwetty over this.
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If they actually make regulation. over this I would applaud the hell out of it.
I'm just not hoping for much of anything.
Business wants this data. Facebook gathers this for them.
And business openly controls US politics, and slightly less openly in Europe, but no less completely.
Asia, and Africa is pretty much "wealth makes right".
And as long as businesses has ANY say in dictating policy. Nothing will come of this.
The very most and best I can hope for is a change in EULA's from the absolute flood of legalese lawyers would need a week to understand.
To something the average person actually would be able to read and understand in a few minutes.
I'm just not hoping for much of anything.
Business wants this data. Facebook gathers this for them.
And business openly controls US politics, and slightly less openly in Europe, but no less completely.
Asia, and Africa is pretty much "wealth makes right".
And as long as businesses has ANY say in dictating policy. Nothing will come of this.
The very most and best I can hope for is a change in EULA's from the absolute flood of legalese lawyers would need a week to understand.
To something the average person actually would be able to read and understand in a few minutes.
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i nearly cancelled ordering a DK2 after the facebook buyout. i was gutted and felt sick.. but honestly i think FB have done ok by VR so far. they have invested a lot of money - certainly they have done more for VR than valve have for instance, and, without the FB billions i do not think there would be anywhere near as much software as there is now, and i also question if the rift ittself would be half as polished as it is, or if we would have something much closer to the DK2.
as for the rest of it... it does not interest me. perhaps i am blinkered / stupid but for me, Facebook is just a name in the background of my VR gaming goggles.
this notion of data being private and having our private personal lives protected... kind of makes me smile. I thought that kind of luxury went out last century. I just assume everything I say and do will be recorded somewhere these days.... besides look at what is going on in Russia.... if actual elections are so brazenly rigged and will go unchallenged then really what is the point?
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I find this funnier than sh**... "OMG! They're tracking me!! They're using that information to target advertising at me!!!"
LMAO! You have a digital presence, you are being tracked and you have no privacy, get over it or get off the grid.
As far as the OPs point? I was wondering that myself yesterday. I think it's fair to say VR will continue without Oculus. For me, while I enjoy my Rift, I'm not wedded to it and will buy what I can afford and what I feel offers me the best performance at the price I can afford. That's why I bought the Rift at $330 but not $699.
Will the world/VR be better off with or without the Rift? Competition is generally good but if the Rift ceases to exist others will step to replace as long as there are people who will buy VR.
LMAO! You have a digital presence, you are being tracked and you have no privacy, get over it or get off the grid.
As far as the OPs point? I was wondering that myself yesterday. I think it's fair to say VR will continue without Oculus. For me, while I enjoy my Rift, I'm not wedded to it and will buy what I can afford and what I feel offers me the best performance at the price I can afford. That's why I bought the Rift at $330 but not $699.
Will the world/VR be better off with or without the Rift? Competition is generally good but if the Rift ceases to exist others will step to replace as long as there are people who will buy VR.
If it wasn't for this forum, and maybe seeing facebook mentioned in an EULA or something, I probably wouldn't even know they had anything to do with the Rift. Though if it was branded facebook instead of Oculus, I wouldn't have bought one. I had no idea that facebook was doing anything to support VR, other than to maybe integrate it into their crappy social medial platform. I actually had more of a feeling that they were delaying development of gen 2 for the Rift - not really heard anything either way.
Regardless, if that Tobii eye tracking is proprietary, I imagine I'll be taking a hard look at the Qualcomm Snapdragon HMD in 2-3 years.
Regardless, if that Tobii eye tracking is proprietary, I imagine I'll be taking a hard look at the Qualcomm Snapdragon HMD in 2-3 years.
As far as it goes, you're being offered something that some are fools enough to think that it's free. It isn't. A service is being rendered, that cost must be defrayed. Nothing is free. If you're fool enough to think that Facebook, or Gmail or any other electronic entity is doing this stuff for free than you're a fool. They'll profit in everyway they can get away with.
As far as politics goes it amuses me that the Obama campaign did basically the same thing and it was called brilliant... Trump does it and it's nefarious. Folks, get over it. Politics is big business and this is just advertising. Camelot never existed nor can it be regulated into existence. Now law makers are running around trying to fix this issue... Now that's funny. What will come out of it is a bunch of loose laws that are so wide open to interpretation that lawyers will feast on this for a long time coming and regulators will run amok.
And because people will carry on doing the same dumb things, expecting laws to protect them rather than using common sense and protecting themselves.
And the world will keep on spinning...
It's not, they just happen to be the one you are acquainted with. Quite a few others are using eye tracking for VR and other things and this is what Foveated Rendering is based on.
Never have had nor never will have a Facebook account. Anyone in my life who needs to know what I’m doing has my phone number, anyone who doesn’t have my phone number has no need to to know what I’m doing.
Do you get many calls? Thought not.
I initially got into Facebook because it allowed me to keep in touch with a very wide spread network of friends and family. I grew up in northwestern New Jersey and my family and friends have moved away as I have. A brother in Tennessee, cousins in Philly, Boston area, Montana, wife's family in Texas... Friends scattered across a dozen states. It allowed me to find friends I lost touch with years ago as I moved to Florida, California and now Alabama.
I became disillusioned with it because of all the drama, politics and just plain dumb stuff that people do. I still have an account, but I rarely ever visit it.
i know enough to not answer my own question.
apart from phone calls to (or from) family I have 4 close friends who I talk to daily (admittedly it’s often by txt), from these I lead an active social life. I have no need or desire to learn who’s burnt their toast or flushed the goldfish down the loo, it’s just flotsam designed to fool empty vessels their lives are full. And now it seems there’s the added bonus that my privacy is actually private.
What I don't get is - firstly you can (apparently) stereotype people from their friends (really? How exactly?) and they can target you to try and persuade you to vote their way/influence your vote (news papers have been doing that for years).
For example on the internet I like to portray myself as a carefree idiot, but in real life I actually do care
For example on the internet I like to portray myself as a carefree idiot, but in real life I actually do care
You have a cell phone and a computer... You are a fool to think you have privacy.
It's kinda like the guy who says he always covers his webcam up... And then someone asks what he does about his microphone...
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im well aware how open peoples lives are in today’s society, unfortunately unless you go fully ‘off grid’ it’s impossible to live a life without computers, phones and other technologies. What you can do though is limit the amount of your life you expose to others. Today’s society, especially the young, is groomed into believing your life is incomplete unless you post everything on line for the world to see in all it’s glory, mayb just mayb what’s happening with Facebook will be the much needed wake up call.