Dinosaurs Designing the Argentinosaurs and/or Patagotitan

Disclaimer:

This is not meant to suggest that either of the two dinosaurs should be added to the game. 1) I realize that we already have a dedicated thread for requesting dinosaurs. 2) One of these two dinosaurs holds the title of, "the largest dinosaur of all time" (there seems to be debate about which is bigger, so I'm just mentioning both of them). With a title that significant, I'm confident that Frontier already has plans to eventually add at least one of these dinosaurs to JWE.

Rather, I will be discussing how I believe they should be designed and presented in-game.

Why make this thread at all?

I know that there has been a fair amount of criticism regarding Dreadnoughtus, but I will bring it up again anyways. When Dreadnoughtus was added, I was disappointed. It was a redundant dinosaur that didn't add anything to the game. It's not necessarily a bad dinosaur; I think it's great, in fact. However, there's no reason to have both the Dreadnoughtus and the Brachiosaurus in the same park.

I love sauropods. As a result, I don't want Argentinosaurus and/or Patagotitan to receive the same treatment that Dreadnoughtus received. When one (or both!) of these titans are added, I hope they'll be designed in such a way that further diversifies the sauropods.

How should they be designed?

In regards to general shape, the picture on the left is very similar to Apatosaurus and Diplodocus, but I will explain what the difference will be! Either of these designs will work, and I will explain how.

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(Disregards the measurements, these are just to show the general shape, but of course they should be massive)

Why should they be designed this way?

As I have alluded to, my concern is diversity and to avoid redundancy. I believe the current sauropods in JWE can be divided into 3 categories:

1) Large and upright (Brachiosaurus, Mamenchisaurus, Dreadnoughtus)
2) Smaller, but still upright (Camarosaurus)
3) Longer and more horizontal (Apatosaurus, Diplodocus, Ankylodocus)

As we can observe, the upright sauropods can be divided into two subcategories, smaller (like the Camarasaurus) and larger (like the Brachiosaurus). However, there's only one category of horizontal sauropods. If the Argentinosaurus or Patagotitan is designed like the picture on the left, we would then be able to divide the horizontal sauropods into two subcategories. Smaller (like the Apataosaurus or Diplodocus) and larger (which would either be the Argentinosaurus or Patagotitan). Basically, the titans would be an up-scaled version of the Apatosaurus or Diplodocus. We would then have four general categories of sauropods in JWE.

Designing the titans like the picture on the right would also add a fourth general category. As I have already stated, all of the current sauropods are either upright, or more horizontal. However, we don't have any sauropods that fit in the middle. That is, their necks being slanted, rather than being upright or horizontal. Apparently, the Dreadnoughtus was actually like the right picture, but rather than redesign the Dreadnoughtus, here's your chance to design a sauropod that fits into that middle category!

When one of these two titans are eventually added, I hope that they will be designed in one of these two ways. Best case scenario: both of these titans are added, incorporating both of these designs. Maximum sauropod diversity!
 
Correction: when I say left picture, I actually mean the upper picture, and the right picture is actually the lower picture. They were side by side when I was typing the post!
 
I wonder which one will be better to add because so far Patagotitan is slightly smaller only slightly by a smidge then it's famous cousin argentinosaurus, and argentinosaurus is very famous all across the world so I wouldn't be surprised if people wanted this dinosaur more than Patagotitan.
 
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I think when it comes to the giant dinosaurs in game, they would use this model in mind:
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Mainly because of three things as far as I know of: The larger dinosaurs could be very big when they come out of the hatchery if they looked like this, it would allow for them to have the dinosaur be long enough to reach the feeders, and it would allow for smoother turning radius. It is like the mamenchisaurus, a lot of people were annoyed that it did not look exactly like the movie version at first, and I believe they made the dinosaur more vertical so as to "squeeze" the rig into a size that would work in game.

I was really worried when the game labeled the dreadnaughtus as the largest dinosaur because it would confirm that the other large dinosaurs were probably not going to come into the game. I don't think it was out of favoritism (though the dreadnaughtus was heavily requested by fans) but more of game's limitation. And making an argentinasaurus that is not as big as it should be, with the same rig as the game's dreadnaughtus to make such a large dinosaur work would leave players and fans a bit of a sour taste in their mouths.

But this topic is about large dinosaurs! I think we could still cover the niche of large horizontal dinosaurs. Currently, diplodocus, ankylodocus, and apatosaurus cover this niche. We have a whole selection of horizontal sauropods smaller than them, but when it comes to the bigger variety, we could use argentinosaurus huinculensis.

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This dinosaur is a subspecies of argentinasaurus if I am not mistaken. It it notably smaller than her larger and more famous sister argentinosaurus fragillimus, but the key here is that it is larger than the diplodocus and apatosaurus, and that it would most likely be the biggest dinosaur we could have in game that is horizontal in posture. I will place a picture in the bottom to compare sizes, but this specimen is the same length as the diplodocus, I would believe that they would give her the pentaceratops treatment, where the dinosaur is similar in bulk to another species but would be noticeably taller due to their longer legs and taller torso.

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I think having such a dinosaur could work in game with such a rig. It would be a unique addition that won't compete in regards to scale for the largest, but would definitely be the largest of the horizontal sauropods. At least that is what I think :p
 
I think we could still cover the niche of large horizontal dinosaurs. Currently, diplodocus, ankylodocus, and apatosaurus cover this niche.

When I described those dinosaurs as "small," I meant it relatively speaking, compared to how big I hope the Argentinosaurus or Patagotitan would be. I think I understand what you're saying about game limitations and such. The dinosaur can't be too big, or else it might not even fit through the hatchery! Among other concerns, like you mentioned. In a perfect world where all of this wasn't an issue, my vision for the Argentinosaurus or Patagotitan would be basically an Apatosaurus or Diplodocus resized to have the same shoulder height as the Brachiosaurus!
 
When I described those dinosaurs as "small," I meant it relatively speaking, compared to how big I hope the Argentinosaurus or Patagotitan would be. I think I understand what you're saying about game limitations and such. The dinosaur can't be too big, or else it might not even fit through the hatchery! Among other concerns, like you mentioned. In a perfect world where all of this wasn't an issue, my vision for the Argentinosaurus or Patagotitan would be basically an Apatosaurus or Diplodocus resized to have the same shoulder height as the Brachiosaurus!

I agree to be honest. I would love to have the giant sauropods I would watch in BBC documentaries and the like that tests our imagination in size lumbering around in the game. Plus it would be nice to get more giant sauropods that are parellel to the ground. Necks that are not 70º to 90º would be nice :)
 
That is interesting, like a special order dinosaur that needs to be incubated from another lab.
It would lack the "woah, I am alive" moment all dinosaurs get when they leave the hatchery, but I could see such dinosaurs being the exception, I would not mind if they were to just update hatcheries with a bigger door, but I doubt that would happen.
 
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