Newcomer / Intro Destroyed by Federation - WHY?

[Touchwood]

This game has before now presented me with several frustrations - but this has to top them all by some considerable way!

I'm doing the Pleiades exploration CG - in top 25% with about 3 hours left to run - looking at over 10 M Cr - returning from last trip out with about 30 to 40 more reports to ensure I stay in top 25%, I received docking permission from the CG station (Pre logistics gamma) and was just about to touch down when I noticed a red sign on my RHS instrument panel - "WANTED" Sure enough, I came under attack and was wiped out by a Federation Authority ship - this is solo play, BTW.

Now, to say I am somewhat annoyed is rather understating the case. WHY HAS THIS HAPPENED? WHAT CAN I DO ABOUT IT? I have re-bought and am in the station - if I re-launch is it going to happen again?

The only thing I can think of is this, and it's tenuous.....

Day before last I was docking at the same station when the game froze, with my ship literally metres from the landing pad. I left the PC for a moment, assuming it would either disconnect or re-start - when I returned, my ship had been destroyed by Federation Authority - I presume for exceeding time permitted to dock, though this is only a guess. I raised a ticket, and have had the re-purchase cost refunded. Maybe this incident has led to me being wanted by Federation? I've checked and I have no outstanding fines - what can I do? I'll raise another ticket, but by the time it's answered, even if favourably, the CG will be over - if I've dropped out of the top 25% I'm going to be seriously miffed!

 

[Para Handy]

If you have re-spawned at the CG station then if there is no "wanted" warning sign then you are OK. Check to see if there is a fine or similar in your contacts panel. If you are wanted then I suggest you wait to get your payout then try to clear off really quick to avoid being scanned by the circling feds.


[alien]

 

[Touchwood]

If you have re-spawned at the CG station then if there is no "wanted" warning sign then you are OK. Check to see if there is a fine or similar in your contacts panel. If you are wanted then I suggest you wait to get your payout then try to clear off really quick to avoid being scanned by the circling feds.


[alien]

Thanks - no "Wanted" sign there now - but I'd just been out exploring for about an hour and not sure I can face the thought of doing that again!

 

[xondk]

This game has before now presented me with several frustrations - but this has to top them all by some considerable way!

I'm doing the Pleiades exploration CG - in top 25% with about 3 hours left to run - looking at over 10 M Cr - returning from last trip out with about 30 to 40 more reports to ensure I stay in top 25%, I received docking permission from the CG station (Pre logistics gamma) and was just about to touch down when I noticed a red sign on my RHS instrument panel - "WANTED" Sure enough, I came under attack and was wiped out by a Federation Authority ship - this is solo play, BTW.

Now, to say I am somewhat annoyed is rather understating the case. WHY HAS THIS HAPPENED? WHAT CAN I DO ABOUT IT? I have re-bought and am in the station - if I re-launch is it going to happen again?

The only thing I can think of is this, and it's tenuous.....

Day before last I was docking at the same station when the game froze, with my ship literally metres from the landing pad. I left the PC for a moment, assuming it would either disconnect or re-start - when I returned, my ship had been destroyed by Federation Authority - I presume for exceeding time permitted to dock, though this is only a guess. I raised a ticket, and have had the re-purchase cost refunded. Maybe this incident has led to me being wanted by Federation? I've checked and I have no outstanding fines - what can I do? I'll raise another ticket, but by the time it's answered, even if favourably, the CG will be over - if I've dropped out of the top 25% I'm going to be seriously miffed!

Sounds like you killed someone while landing? bumped into a ship?

 

[SeaFireliv]

This game has before now presented me with several frustrations - but this has to top them all by some considerable way!

I'm doing the Pleiades exploration CG - in top 25% with about 3 hours left to run - looking at over 10 M Cr - returning from last trip out with about 30 to 40 more reports to ensure I stay in top 25%, I received docking permission from the CG station (Pre logistics gamma) and was just about to touch down when I noticed a red sign on my RHS instrument panel - "WANTED" Sure enough, I came under attack and was wiped out by a Federation Authority ship - this is solo play, BTW.

Now, to say I am somewhat annoyed is rather understating the case. WHY HAS THIS HAPPENED? WHAT CAN I DO ABOUT IT? I have re-bought and am in the station - if I re-launch is it going to happen again?

The only thing I can think of is this, and it's tenuous.....

Day before last I was docking at the same station when the game froze, with my ship literally metres from the landing pad. I left the PC for a moment, assuming it would either disconnect or re-start - when I returned, my ship had been destroyed by Federation Authority - I presume for exceeding time permitted to dock, though this is only a guess. I raised a ticket, and have had the re-purchase cost refunded. Maybe this incident has led to me being wanted by Federation? I've checked and I have no outstanding fines - what can I do? I'll raise another ticket, but by the time it's answered, even if favourably, the CG will be over - if I've dropped out of the top 25% I'm going to be seriously miffed!

I had a situation kinda like this. I tried helping some cops get a Wanted guy and I must`ve focused on a cop ship by accident since all the Police turned on me and blew me away. But on return no one attacked me. Guess once you`ve been blown up that`s your crime time served!

 

[X-Terminator]

There's a CG present with Empire vs Feds. Perhaps it got crossed wires with that in the disconnect?
If you are WANTED you can get out easy enough by boosting straight within station and use scanner. Have a route ready to jump to.
The exit game after launch may work to return you a good distance away from the Station also but boost away immediately.
They have to scan you first to know you're WANTED.
I still want the audio alarm added for first becoming WANTED status.

 

[Chris Simon]

Hey, sorry to hear that.

There are several possibilities how you can become wanted "all of the sudden" around the stations. You could have
1) Rammed into another ship while speeding, killing it in the process (really easy with the Sideys and Eagles around)
2) Taken too long when passing through the letterbox
3) Loitered above or around another landing pad while approaching yours, or mistakenly tried to land ond a pad that wasn't yours.

But your case seem actually pretty clear. Yesterday when your game froze, you went away and your ship became wanted for loitering (No.3 - hovering over the pad) and consequently destroyed. That makes the bounty on your head dormant. (you (and others) don't see it, unless you get scanned by cops)
Today as you approached the station you were scanned by the authority vessel and the dormant bounty was reactivated. Aaand deactivated again.
So - if I may recommend something - don't get scanned in this system, again.

 

[Gator Country]

Hey, sorry to hear that.

There are several possibilities how you can become wanted "all of the sudden" around the stations. You could have
1) Rammed into another ship while speeding, killing it in the process (really easy with the Sideys and Eagles around)
2) Taken too long when passing through the letterbox
3) Loitered above or around another landing pad while approaching yours, or mistakenly tried to land ond a pad that wasn't yours.

But your case seem actually pretty clear. Yesterday when your game froze, you went away and your ship became wanted for loitering (No.3 - hovering over the pad) and consequently destroyed. That makes the bounty on your head dormant. (you (and others) don't see it, unless you get scanned by cops)
Today as you approached the station you were scanned by the authority vessel and the dormant bounty was reactivated. Aaand deactivated again.
So - if I may recommend something - don't get scanned in this system, again.

I thought once a station or the local cops kill you any bounties they issued were converted to legacy fines and tacked onto your rebuy cost. I haven't had any scrapes with the law outside of one 400 Cr fine back when I was just starting out (which I paid as soon as I could), so this is an area I'm not clear on at all.

 

[Chris Simon]

I thought once a station or the local cops kill you any bounties they issued were converted to legacy fines and tacked onto your rebuy cost. I haven't had any scrapes with the law outside of one 400 Cr fine back when I was just starting out (which I paid as soon as I could), so this is an area I'm not clear on at all.

It's complicated.
there are only two ways to completely get rid of a bounty.
1) Let it run out. then it turns into a fine and you can pay it off
2) Another commanders kills you and claims the bounty.

In these cases you are completely clean. But other than that:

If you have an active bounty on your head and die (no matter how, unless it's another player) the bounty turns into a dormant bounty. You can't see it, and nor can other commanders, but if a system authority scans you, it gets reactivated, or if you get another bounty the dormant one is added to it. You can die how many times you want, it doesn't change.

Fines and legacy fines work in similar manner. If you die, fines turn into legacy fines, but when you respawn at the station where the fine (or a bounty) is issued, it will be added to your rebuy price.
And also if you have any legacy fines and you are fined again, the fines get added up.

 

[CMDR Mr. Boombastic]

As Chris Simon & Gator County have already written it sounds like: Loitering --> Fine & wanted --> Destroyed & dormant bounty --> Scanned & active bounty --> Destroyed & respawn at station where bounty was issued --> Legacy fine added to rebuy cost.

Here's a flowchart explaining the process (although over a year old so the process may have had some minor tweaks since then): Uncle Jack's Guide to Crime & Punishment

So you just need to check whenever you commit a crime or get destroyed:

• Your Transactions tab for any outstanding fines/active or dormant bounties.
• Your reputation with any of the superpower/local factions making sure you have not become unfriendly/hostile to them. You can check this in your right-HUD/Status/Reputation or in the System Map. But most unlikely in this particular case unless you've been taking part in any actions that would make you lose rep with one of the factions.

 

[Para Handy]

Thanks - no "Wanted" sign there now - but I'd just been out exploring for about an hour and not sure I can face the thought of doing that again!

Well, when you go back to the CG just check you have no "wanted" sign and you'll be OK.

Moral is, when the game freezes don't just leave it, kill the process in task manager (or pull the plug on XBone?) - even away from a station.


[alien]

 

[Brumbold]

i had a fun one happen to me where after hitting the launch button, my ship got ready but i could not move it...got blown up because of this, then after respawning, i launched out and flew out into space just to start sucking oxygen...could not hail the station even though i was right next to it....almost getting hit by the revolving ring...died again.
it turned out some system modules were turned off. i know i did not do it so i think that some stations just have a bug. a rare bug but still.