Disadvantages of exploring in Anaconda?

Bam

Bam
I love my Anaconda, but its just a bit big for a good well composed selfie using the debug camera, you just cant get far enough away. Its a bit like the old Bonusprint adverts, back a bit, back a bit more....

I know you were after disadvantages, but the biggest bonus IMO is the huge fuel scoops you can put on them, I only have a C7 and it nets 890/sec or around 4-500 with stable temps around 61%
 
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Neokortex

Neokortex
I meant the time to travel (far). Since big jumprange sounds tempting, I realise more and more that its a fool because the anaconda is to heavy. Weight changes the fuel consumption so much, that you need to scoop much more and scooping takes a lot of time. So, in total you fly less far in 1hr (rl) compared to Asp with lower jumprange.
 

Cdr Voorheez

Cdr Voorheez
In answer to OPs question I would honestly reply with:

1. High price tag (200 mil if I'm right for an explorer conda?)
2. High insurance costs
3. High repair costs
 

Neokortex

Neokortex
Cdr Voorheez said:
In answer to OPs question I would honestly reply with:

1. High price tag (200 mil if I'm right for an explorer conda?)
2. High insurance costs
3. High repair costs
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High is relative ;) I am even thinking about to buy a 2nd conda because I am to lanzy to change outfits ;)
 

domaq

domaq
Neokortex said:
I meant the time to travel (far). Since big jumprange sounds tempting, I realise more and more that its a fool because the anaconda is to heavy. Weight changes the fuel consumption so much, that you need to scoop much more and scooping takes a lot of time. So, in total you fly less far in 1hr (rl) compared to Asp with lower jumprange.
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Interesting. I haven't found this to be true for me. I can make a jump every 45-50 seconds with either Asp or Conda. Asp with 6A scoop and Conda with 7B or better. Yes your max fuel consumption with the 5A FSD in the Asp is 5t vs 8t with the 6A in the Conda but your max scoop rate is higher as well. It seems to balance out thus making my Ly/hr higher in the Conda (~2500 in the Asp vs +2800 in the Conda).
 
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Neokortex

Neokortex
domaq said:
Interesting. I just haven't found this to be true for me....
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I just started analysing it but yes, its a fact: When I fly with cargo (450+t) I eat like 30% more fuel than without at the same route. I made couple of runs the same way (trading meanwhile) and checking the fuel any time since my Tradeconda doesnt have a scoop.
What I didnt calculated is how much it effects in total compared to Asp (or other ship).
 
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colprice2002

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Exploring with my Conda seemed much more leisurely than witn the Asp - maybe because the majestic handling is much slower than the Asp.
I also found that the Conda uses about 2.2 tons/hour of fuel for "systems" whereas the Asp is about 1.2. This fuel comes from the 1ton tank, so it needs refilling more often on the Conda.

I also ran into more heat damage with the Conda, it looks like my next trip out will be back in the Asp, though unarmed unlike the DBE and Conda.

Fly safe
 

domaq

domaq
Neokortex said:
I just started analysing it but yes, its a fact: When I fly with cargo (450+t) I eat like 30% more fuel than without at the same route. I made couple of runs the same way (trading meanwhile) and checking the fuel any time since my Tradeconda doesnt have a scoop.
What I didnt calculated it how much it effects in total compared to Asp (or other ship).
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Apologies, I didn't realise you were talking about carrying cargo. My calculations were purely from an exploring point of view to dispute that the extra mass of the Explor-conda (and fuel consumption of the larger FSD) can be offset by the larger scoop to increase overall travel distance per hour.
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It would also be interesting if the same size thrusters use different fuel in different ships. I say thrusters since they use the most power of any ship system. We could test this with 5Ds since both Asp and Conda can carry them. If we turn everything else off, we might get a relatively fair assessment of the effect the extra mass has on fuel consumption
 
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Neokortex

Neokortex
domaq said:
Apologies, I didn't realise you were talking about carrying cargo. My calculations were purely from an exploring point of view to dispute that the extra mass of the Explor-conda (and fuel consumption of the larger FSD) can be offset by the larger scoop to increase overall travel distance per hour.
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I wasnt talking about cargo, I talked about the consumption changes on your ship weight.
Yes, the bigger scoop could/will matter also. But on my Asp I have 577 already. How much faster is the scoop at conda (max)? I didnt checked but maybe this balance off the consumptions.
 
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Traveller_GG

Traveller_GG
7A is 1245 and the 7B (one I am using) is 1068

Fast scooping with the whale mouth :)

The 7C is 4MCr cheaper than your 5A and fills at 890 so is quicker as well.
 
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Neokortex

Neokortex
Traveller_GG said:
7A is 1245 and the 7B (one I am using) is 1068

Fast scooping with the whale mouth :)

The 7C is 4MCr cheaper than your 5A and fills at 890 so is quicker as well.
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Ok, thats a lot more and changes much. As long as scoopable stars are around.
I will make the calculation of Asp and Conda as soon as I get more time (and mood) and lets see how big is the different. Would be funny if longer jumprage means slower travelling because of this ;)
 

Traveller_GG

Traveller_GG
Hasn't this been answered with the Buckyball records though? While they're close, the Anaconda has the fastest run time doesn't it?
 

Dommarraa

Dommarraa
Traveller_GG said:
Hasn't this been answered with the Buckyball records though? While they're close, the Anaconda has the fastest run time doesn't it?
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But thats just scoop and go, there is more to exploring than that. Conda's horrendous agility makes it a total stinker for SC (and considerably more dangerous)
 

Pilot Mark

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It may be better when you can carry a sidewinder to use for surface scans, although I guess that would impact the max jump range (to what extent is unknown).

I prefer the 'Conda because it can get to places any other ship cannot. My max range is 41.17, you can do more if you lose the scanners - but then there is no point.
 
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