"Discovered by" tag!

[Arubeto]

I really like how the chance to leave your mark in the persistent and shared online galaxy by "tagging" bodies through discovery creates a new incentive for explorers. I wholeheartedly enjoy exploring, and being able to put your name in the notes of a planet or star adds another very nice touch. IMHO it's a good example of why ditching the offline-mode was an understandable decision.

 

[jabokai]

I really like how the chance to leave your mark in the persistent and shared online galaxy by "tagging" bodies through discovery creates a new incentive for explorers. I wholeheartedly enjoy exploring, and being able to put your name in the notes of a planet or star adds another very nice touch. IMHO it's a good example of why ditching the offline-mode was an understandable decision.

Eh? While it's a nice addition for online explorers I cannot see how this in any way justifies, or vindicates the decision to remove offline - it's just totally unrelated! If offline existed then people playing in that mode would simply not see other commander's discoveries (being as they would be in their own galaxy) and nor would they care!

As I say, nice addition, weird that you try and associate it with the removal of offline.

 

[Arubeto]

Eh? While it's a nice addition for online explorers I cannot see how this in any way justifies, or vindicates the decision to remove offline - it's just totally unrelated! If offline existed then people playing in that mode would simply not see other commander's discoveries (being as they would be in their own galaxy) and nor would they care!

As I say, nice addition, weird that you try and associate it with the removal of offline.

Well, I agree an offline version of the "Discovered by" tag would be technically possible as well, of course. I just think it wouldn't be as interesting to only ever see your own name behind those tags.

I don't think "online-only" is a necessity for the discovery tag, but it makes it much more relevant. In offline mode it would merely represent a "visited history", sort of. In online-mode it adds the kind of competition between explorers FD promised in the beginning, with individual explorers having a reason to race home to hand in their discovery data of some specific and potentially interesting system before any rival does. And it gives the explorers at least one way to "show off" without having to post pictures and videos in a forum.

 

[{SAS}Stalker]

Do you get any easy to find info in game regarding this or is it a case of trawling over every system I've ever been to (not possible), too see if I was first?

 

[jabokai]

I was just objecting to the "IMHO it's a good example of why ditching the offline-mode was an understandable decision" part. The two things are not related, that's all.

 

[Vorxian]

Do you get any easy to find info in game regarding this or is it a case of trawling over every system I've ever been to (not possible), too see if I was first?

Cannot remember exactly, it's either when you scan the system, or the planet there's a label that specifies if has already been discovered by another pilot. i think it's when you planet scan.. but dont quote me. It's very obvious if someone has already tagged it.

 

[Arubeto]

I was just objecting to the "IMHO it's a good example of why ditching the offline-mode was an understandable decision" part. The two things are not related, that's all.

As I said, I think they are related - which doesn't mean one (discovery tag) requires (or precludes) the other (online-only). It just becomes more meaningful through it.
But I believe this is language nitpicking, which I won't win, since English is not my first language

 

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Do you get any easy to find info in game regarding this or is it a case of trawling over every system I've ever been to (not possible), too see if I was first?

There was a dump of the data and some kind soul put a web search wrapper around it. Have search for it, it's a great thing to see your name, even on just the one system.

 

[Arubeto]

Do you get any easy to find info in game regarding this or is it a case of trawling over every system I've ever been to (not possible), too see if I was first?

Cannot remember exactly, it's either when you scan the system, or the planet there's a label that specifies if has already been discovered by another pilot. i think it's when you planet scan.. but dont quote me. It's very obvious if someone has already tagged it.

I found two quotes by Michael that might be interesting in this regard:

A history of where you've been on the galaxy map is on our wish list.

Can we get a filter on galaxy map that would show visited / explored systems? I think this very important for explorers especially when you see a lot of systems with generic names, names which are difficult to remember.

Probably not, that data doesn't exist on that level of the map and would slow the map down to retrieve that data.

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Weird thing is - in the only System I've tried it (Unexplored, some Icy Planets had no "First Discovered"), they're now fully explored after my scans - but there's no "Discovered by" on them at all.

Certainly didn't expect them to be my 1st Discovered of course, but I did expect them to show me who did (I received no Message of being first on something).
Kinda odd, not sure what to make of that.

You have to sell them to be recognized as their discoverer, hence the need to race home from exploration if you want to be sure to be mentioned in the discovery tag.

 

[Flyto]

AIUI the "discovered by" message names the first person to do a detailed scan *and sell the data*.

 

[Effnaught]

AIUI the "discovered by" message names the first person to do a detailed scan *and sell the data*.

Detailed *surface* scan *and sell the data* maybe?

 

[jabokai]

As I said, I think they are related - which doesn't mean one (discovery tag) requires (or precludes) the other (online-only). It just becomes more meaningful through it.
But I believe this is language nitpicking, which I won't win, since English is not my first language

They are related in the sense that the "discovered by" tag has more meaning in an online game, I agree. They are not related in the way you originally worded it - that the tags are a good reason why offline was dropped! They would still have been available in the online version even if offline existed. Your English is fine, I'd not have guessed it wasn't your first language from your posts.

 

[Googol]

Do you get any easy to find info in game regarding this or is it a case of trawling over every system I've ever been to (not possible), too see if I was first?

Cannot remember exactly, it's either when you scan the system, or the planet there's a label that specifies if has already been discovered by another pilot. i think it's when you planet scan.. but dont quote me. It's very obvious if someone has already tagged it.

The "discovered by" information will show up if you look at systems in the galaxy map for which you already have information (but see proviso below) or, failing that, when you visit the system and trigger the discovery scanner all the system bodies you detect will display tags if they have already been discovered. You don't need to do a detailed surface scan to find this out.
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Interestingly enough there are some systems that are known but have no discovery information. I assume that these are mainly occupied systems with stations in known space and were part of the original cartographic information available to pilots at the start of the game. I have found a few empty systems where this is true as well.
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There was a dump of the data and some kind soul put a web search wrapper around it. Have search for it, it's a great thing to see your name, even on just the one system.

You can find the searchable data here. It's a snapshot that Michael made available earlier this month and for masochists a link to the raw data is here.

 

[Arubeto]

Detailed *surface* scan *and sell the data* maybe?

This reminds me of one thing I didn't quite understand: the text when finishing a scan of a planet or star always says "Detailed surface scan finished", no matter if my Advanced Surface Scanner is activated or not. Is there any way to tell if you are conducting a "normal" detailed surface scan or an "advanced" detailed surface scan (apart from when you sell the data)? For testing purposes I cut the power to my Advanced Scanner, but the the UI messages when scanning a body where exactly the same.

They are related in the sense that the "discovered by" tag has more meaning in an online game, I agree. They are not related in the way you originally worded it - that the tags are a good reason why offline was dropped! They would still have been available in the online version even if offline existed.

Then indeed my wording was bad. In my mind it was logical that if you can't guarantee a game mechanic (in this case discovery tags) has the same quality in all game modes (online and offline) you either drop the mechanic or the mode where it doesn't work as well. Since I think it's save to assume there are quite a few other mechanics (dynamic markets, factions etc.) that would take a hit in quality in the same way as discovery tags in offline mode, FDs decision to drop offline mode is understandable since keeping it would compromise the the overall quality of their game too much (in their perception, which is the one that counts, IMO).

Your English is fine, I'd not have guessed it wasn't your first language from your posts.

Thanks! I am very glad to read that! Very motivating!

 

[Deputy]

Coolest thing with the "dicovered by" tags in their current state is that any punk in their sidewinder with a fuel scoop can go tag the Galaxy. This is a great motivation for noobs to go and make a name for yourself.