DIY Joystick

Hi All

I dont know if this has been asked or If im even in the right place to ask But has anyone either toyed with the idea or even built their own joystick specifically for Elite use. I ask because the cheap Hotas that are out there are so very cheap and flimsy. Iv even heard differing storys about the x52 and then the price just shoots up and up. So the reason why I was wondering if it had been tried either via USB or even a Rasberry Pi setup? I dont know . But just a thought??.:rolleyes:

Regards Os
 
Hi All

I dont know if this has been asked or If im even in the right place to ask But has anyone either toyed with the idea or even built their own joystick specifically for Elite use. I ask because the cheap Hotas that are out there are so very cheap and flimsy. ................

I have to say that the Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS-X is not at all flimsy. It is reasonably priced (a quarter of a X52) and surprisingly capable. I have used my HOTAS-X for many hours every day since last April and it has been very reliable, no failures at all and a joy to use.
 
The software/hardware side of a DIY joystick is easy, you can purchase a USB joystick control board and add potentiometers/buttons/switches to your liking. Finding and making an ergonomic handle that feels right, is durable, and can be used for extended periods of time comfortably is the hard part. The best/cheapest option is to modify existing joysticks

You could even make something that uses accelerometers/gyros like an EDtracker attached to a handle for a joystick that never wears out, same with hall effect sensors instead of potentiometers.
 
I have to say that the Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS-X is not at all flimsy. It is reasonably priced (a quarter of a X52) and surprisingly capable. I have used my HOTAS-X for many hours every day since last April and it has been very reliable, no failures at all and a joy to use.

I have to agree with this. I also use a T-Flight HOTAS-X and it is great for the $40 I paid for it.
Would I like an X52 or X55? Sure, but I am not at all comfortable buying from a company with such QC issues.
If money is no object then I've only heard good things about the CH products flight sticks and throttles, even though they look less futuristic then the X52 or X55.
 
I'm actually more interested on a DIY Throttle Stick than a joystick. My Thrustmaster T-16000m is an excellent stick but the throttle control is awkwardly placed in the middle and has a super short movement.
 
My custom throttle was made with a Leo Bodnar control board and the handle from a Hotas X

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I'm very happy with the Arduino Pro Micro 5V. You can get from Sparkfun ($20) or from Banggood ($5, no shipping cost from china).
It gets recognised as an HID device. Just install the driver from the sparkfun site. Works like a charm.
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To use it as a joystick, get this code
// joystick HID.cpp and USBAPI by Matthew Heironimus
// http://www.instructables.com/id/Add-USB-Game-Controller-to-Arduino-LeonardoMicro/
// Developed : Arduino 1.6.5
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I'm building myself a throttle controller. My Logitech 3D works nice and is totally fine after a non-stop playtime of 3 weeks (from right panel ;) ).
 
Hi, i've build my hotas seat/chair/rudder/firmware/everything myself. The experience is amazing! Do not be afraid to ask me if you have any questions. Check my signature for my topic!
 
You can make your own analogue joystick quite easily.

Writing it's device driver for Windows is something else entirely.

The beauty of USB HID (keyboard, mouse, joystick...) is that you don't need to write device drivers for Windows or any other OS for that matter. You need to write firmware for the device controller, but if you are a programmer that is much less of a problem than it sounds and it is very, very interesting.
 
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No need to write a device driver. http://www.hempstick.org

They are good boards, but for a simple usb controller (no software or arduino boards) www.leobodnar.com is what i use for my iracing custom controllers. There are button only boards, full 8 axis analogue with 32 buttons, load cell inputs etc. all plug and play usb boards.
Gentlemen, I thank you both from the bottom of my heart. These are the droids I was looking for.
 
Hi Im wanting to build a throttle part of the control system and wanted it to be of the slider type And had thought about using hall effect sensors runing over a gear toothed bar run over by a gear attaced to the magnets spinning round the HaLL unit. And either locked or fitted with a sprung reverse so it would reset to zero after use? Also possibly switches that emulate Q,E,R,and F buttons or by a thumb microstick on the end of the throttle stick. And with a button for the landing gear on the base of the unit.

regards Os
 
I have to say that the Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS-X is not at all flimsy. It is reasonably priced (a quarter of a X52) and surprisingly capable. I have used my HOTAS-X for many hours every day since last April and it has been very reliable, no failures at all and a joy to use.


Im a bit biased on this...but to me the T-Flight Hotas IS the best stick out there...regardless of price.
My first one burnt out (lost twist yaw on left side) after 3-4 years of hard game play in Warplanes and War Thunder.

Bought me another one this last christmas and my brother one with a copy of Elite Dangerous.


Sorry off topic, but wanted to put in a good word for the T-Flight Hotas X
 
Finding and making an ergonomic handle that feels right, is durable, and can be used for extended periods of time comfortably is the hard part.

If you know someone with a 3D printer, I bet you could work something out. Imagine how comfortable the stick would be if it was designed around your hands alone.
 
Get a bit of SuGru and knead a grip you like/want. It takes many adjustment to get the perfect natural grip. On the other hand, something as simple as a bikes handle bar or a shifter from a car works just as well for some tasks.
 
If you know someone with a 3D printer, I bet you could work something out. Imagine how comfortable the stick would be if it was designed around your hands alone.

Funy you should say that. As many years ago I used to pistol shoot at a high level before the government decided we could no longer be trusted to have hand guns for target competition use, (Dont get me started on that subjext as its still sore after all these years)
Anyway back to the topic We found out to shoot better we had to hold the gun better So mostof us had hand grips made and then fitted to the gun. The way at the time was quite painful as it included hot glue and sawdust of varing texture from quite large chips to the very fine dust like for the finishing off. Anyway a small blank of the but was made and then it was gradually built up via the hot glue and sawdust by adding more mixture sqeeging and then plunging your hand into a bucket of water to stop the burning LOL., This was done till we got the best and most comftable grip.. . After the grip fully hardend It was slit down the centre and cleaned up top being blended to the metal and bottom made flat It was then sealed and fitted to the weapon. All the work, pain and burns from the hot glue was well worth it as it moved me up the club and curcit rankings.

I supose a simlar one could be made and hollow it out for the slidelever and other switches. and still be made in the same way Or these days you could get some platercine with good consistancey mould into a ball grip with your hand to produce a realist it hand grip . Then scan it and have one printed? But that would still be plastic. The way we used to make them helped with the long sessions we had hold of the grip and sweat waas never a problem because the sawdust absorbed it and the grip still felt great.


Most of the bits iv seen like the cogs and lengths of cogged bar are all available . I have just beenlooking for the Hall units and magnets. The other thing is I do have a lot of bits to scavenge as many years ago I also used to fit CCTV ststems and I was always a nagpie and saved the good stuff so I have many PTZ keayboards with joysticks fitted that are the tip end units plus all manner of switches I can pull out and finally In my spare time I used to build steam engines and Radio control models So i have a smallist workshop stocked with Lathe Miller and lots of other engineering equipment So thought I might try and put it to some use again. I will get out the wacom drawing board and see what I can come up with.

If anyone has any ideas as what else to incorperate or layout might be good then please post it and I will see how it goes..

All the best Os...
 
Thought about it 20 years ago, looked up the parts prices and discovered might as well buy the CH Products Fighterstick and Pro Throttle. Have had 2 sets in the last 20 years. Would still have had my old CH version that plugged into the gameports and keyboard port if MS wouldn't have made those obsolete in an effort to corner the market again.

It is doable.........but you got to want to do it. And it probably won't look pretty. Ahhh 3D printing. Forgot we have that tech now. Might have to give this a second thought now.
 
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