DK2 Amazing Results on 0.8 windows 10 !!! (But To What End)

[Susscon]

''Amazing Results'' 75hz on a 60hz monitor @ 1920x1080, Runtime 0.8, Windows 10 (But To What End?)

Ok.
I turned off DSR in the nvidia control panel to allow me to make a custom resolution.
Set my resolution to 1280x768
Refresh Rate set to 75Hz
and for the timing i changed from automatic to GTF and saved the custom resolution.

Launched ED while steam VR is active
in game graphics options set 3D to HMD (headphones)

BANG! 75fps, ultra graphic settings, and not a single flicker or judder (until i fist punched the air)

it's not as smooth as it was using the extended mode with the 5 runtime drivers, but the difference is hardly enough to make a fuss over.

As we know 1280x768 is like playing Tetris so i went ahead and done this....




Now i was amazed how well ED runs at max settings, 1920x1080, runtime 8, windows 10...

BUT!
Doing this to my monitor that is only a 60hz by default... I'm not sure how much damage i am doing to it (if any).

It's and old monitor, so i am sure that most of you should not have a problem getting yours to do the same, but i stress to you that i don't know how much damage i am doing to my screen, so don't try it if you are worried about turning you monitor into a cozy indoor christmas fireplace

Maybe some helpful guys on here that know more about this can tell you more if its safe or not.

Like i say, its an old monitor, so i'm going with the motto...



Best of luck People, hope this helps

 

[Milamber]

Hello

I followed your guide and here is what I get.

• Set custom resolution
• Blue LED on DK2
• Fire up Horizons via Steam after loading Steam VR (not BETA)
• Horizons loads on my main screen in a single view (not two lens view)
• Display on my rift is 2D with a black bar through the middle

Any ideas, spent over 2 hours on my issue and its driving me bonkers!

 

[Susscon]

Only difference i can see, is that i am using the steam VR beta.
I am pretty sure it works regardless if its beta or not, from what i have read on other sites, its advised to use steam VR beta.

In the graphics settings in game, make sure that in the 3D section, it is set to HMD (Headphones)
It sounds like you have not selected the right 3D configuration in the main graphics menu of ED

*note*
I am not using Horizons, just Elite Dangerous 64bit But I'm not sure if it makes a difference

 

[Milamber]

Only difference i can see, is that i am using the steam VR beta.
I am pretty sure it works regardless if its beta or not, from what i have read on other sites, its advised to use steam VR beta.

In the graphics settings in game, make sure that in the 3D section, it is set to HMD (Headphones)
It sounds like you have not selected the right 3D configuration in the main graphics menu of ED

*note*
I am not using Horizons, just Elite Dangerous 64bit But I'm not sure if it makes a difference

I was using HMD headphones. I will try ED.

 

[Lestenio]

I can't quiet get 75 fps on ultra running SLI with 970s. But tweaking a few of the settings I can get some good fps with your settings.

I think SLI is more effort than it's worth right now so different issue. Cheers for the settings.

And FYI Steam VR beta is required.

 

[Susscon]

I can't quiet get 75 fps on ultra running SLI with 970s. But tweaking a few of the settings I can get some good fps with your settings.

I think SLI is more effort than it's worth right now so different issue. Cheers for the settings.

And FYI Steam VR beta is required.

No problem

Thanks for clearing that up, was not sure if the beta was needed for steam vr or not.
It was only yesterday i started looking into all this after the new windows update killed my 0.5 runtime from working using the runtime switch method.

Its just the one 780ti manually overclocked i'm using, but i hear Horizons has framerate issues anyway if that's what your running?

Anyway, I'm just happy i can rift it once again. This VR road is all ups and downs, hopefully it wont be much longer and all of these workarounds and fixes will be a thing of the past.

 

[Wolfox]

Launched ED while steam VR is active

I stopped reading

 

[Lestenio]

Its just the one 780ti manually overclocked i'm using, but i hear Horizons has framerate issues anyway if that's what your running?

Anyway, I'm just happy i can rift it once again. This VR road is all ups and downs, hopefully it wont be much longer and all of these workarounds and fixes will be a thing of the past.

Yeah running Horizons. VR as you say is a lot of ups and downs. Mostly downs for me at the moment.

btw. You don't need to start steam VR. Just start ED. it sorts itself out.

 

[Susscon]

Yeah running Horizons. VR as you say is a lot of ups and downs. Mostly downs for me at the moment.

btw. You don't need to start steam VR. Just start ED. it sorts itself out.

I know you don't need steam VR actually running for it to work, I stated exactly what I done in case for some reason it caused complications for others.
Sometimes just the little things could decide from something working or not working.

Yeah, it has always been a chore to get games working 100% with good frames going all the way back since the DK1, I boxed up my DK1+2 and thought balls to it! a few times over the years.
But the few times when I things work flawless makes it all worth it.

I have just had a good 3 hour session on the DK2 using this setup, and in my new fully modded Imperial Eagle, and had a few small moments of judder in busy conflict zones, but apart from that, its tip top tommy

 

[AbsoluteDisgrace]

Yeah running Horizons. VR as you say is a lot of ups and downs. Mostly downs for me at the moment.

btw. You don't need to start steam VR. Just start ED. it sorts itself out.

For me to get ED to work i actually do need to start steam VR. I have to follow this exact process:

1. Start Steam VR
2. Start ED Launcher (i have the non-steam version)
3. Close steam VR
4. Run Elite Horizons 64 bit.

If i don't do the above, nothing appears in my rift and my monitor shows a black screen with the elite version/server in the bottom left.

 

[Lestenio]

For me to get ED to work i actually do need to start steam VR. I have to follow this exact process:

1. Start Steam VR
2. Start ED Launcher (i have the non-steam version)
3. Close steam VR
4. Run Elite Horizons 64 bit.

If i don't do the above, nothing appears in my rift and my monitor shows a black screen with the elite version/server in the bottom left.

Mine does exact that too. But if I leave it or reset to centre it appears. Assuming the blue light on the dk2 comes on.

 

[masCh]

Can someone please confirm whether it is safe to run the primary monitor on 75Hz when its designed for 60Hz?

(this is a laptop with 970M)

Because this isn't a monitor I can just replace if it breaks, I am a bit concerned about having to set the primary monitor at 75Hz because Oculus now requires only HMD mode and no longer extended mode.

Without setting the custom resolution at 75Hz, I could nveer get the 75 FPS in game.

 

[Milamber]

I've reverted back to Windows 7 x64.

Cant see the benefit with Windows 10 right now, just a mired of problems.

 

[Susscon]

Can someone please confirm whether it is safe to run the primary monitor on 75Hz when its designed for 60Hz?

I have been researching a few places from trusted overclocking sites, and overclocking you monitor seems common enough for it not to be an imminent threat to your screen.
But all the sites i read say pretty much the same thing, with any overclock, whether it be GPU, CPU, RAM... you are taking a risk, and will be doing damage ''long term''.

That being said, it depends how far you push it, the more overclock, the more damage I guess.
Mine is still going ok, I have not noticed any abnormal heat, sparks or fires just yet

others say that its 100% fine to do small overclock's like from 60hz to 70hz, others have pushed passed 80hz to 96hz before the screen just wont display and it hits the absolute limit of what it can give out via tweaking.

So its pretty much your call, risk it or don't :/

 

[Susscon]

I stopped reading

Haha, yeh i was not a fan of the idea of steam VR (i never used steam VR for anything before).
But you should at least try it out, I in fact prefer this method to any others. But each to there own i guess

One good thing is friends can watch my steam broadcast and it is not projected as double vision from the oculus using steam VR.
In fact after two of my friends seen some of my game play last night, they have gone and purchased Elite
and even with people watching my stream it did not drop below 75fps in the CQC mode.

I've reverted back to Windows 7 x64.

Cant see the benefit with Windows 10 right now, just a mired of problems.

I'm sorry for your loss lol

I get it though, some people just want to get on and play without wasting time on tweaks and settings, whatever works best for you isn't it

 

[Raptoyd]

What are you using to stream with? I am finally on Christmas break and going to give a run at this on Windows 10. Would really like to show it off when people come over on Friday.
Thanks

 

[Cmdr Spencer]

Single GTX 970 with I5 4690k I'm getting no judder at all, even in space stations (although have not tried in surface starport yet). The performance of my rig seems much better than in 1.4, no SC or Station judder.
Here are my settings

PC Hardware/Software
Windows 7 ProMSI Gaming 5 MoboI5 4690k overclocked to 4.00Ghz via OC Genie
Cores unparked
MSI GTX 970 Overclocked to 1330mhz via MSI Gaming App
DK2 running 0.5 runtime

Nvidia Control Panel
Programme settings > select Elitedangerous64.exe

Custom resolutions for DSR and Nvidia Global Settings below


Physx - set to CPU

Note i am using AA in Nvidia settings not in game

Using Sweet FX Config
Doesn't really affect performance, but i'm using Lumasharpen, Liftgammagain, Tonemap and Vibrance.

In Game
Resolution 2560x1440 (think its 2560, the 1440 is def correct)
High Setting
Low Shadows
Blur Off
Bloom Off
Terrain Slider - 50% (haven't really experimented with this)
Supersampling 1.0x (using in game SS causes me judder
Rift Quality Full (hate reducing this, would sooner lower the resolution)

 

[Susscon]

What are you using to stream with? I am finally on Christmas break and going to give a run at this on Windows 10. Would really like to show it off when people come over on Friday.
Thanks

I don't do any streaming, but I know most people use OBS or Xsplit Broadcasters for twitch.

I just have my Steam set to open to broadcasts so people can watch what I am playing, I have also tried out Nvidia Shadowplay that comes with GeForce Experience software.

You will get serious frame drops streaming while using the DK2, so I wont recommend it.

 

[masCh]

I have been researching a few places from trusted overclocking sites, and overclocking you monitor seems common enough for it not to be an imminent threat to your screen.
But all the sites i read say pretty much the same thing, with any overclock, whether it be GPU, CPU, RAM... you are taking a risk, and will be doing damage ''long term''.

That being said, it depends how far you push it, the more overclock, the more damage I guess.
Mine is still going ok, I have not noticed any abnormal heat, sparks or fires just yet

others say that its 100% fine to do small overclock's like from 60hz to 70hz, others have pushed passed 80hz to 96hz before the screen just wont display and it hits the absolute limit of what it can give out via tweaking.

So its pretty much your call, risk it or don't :/

I have found a way to run Elite on Extended Mode with Win10. I posted about it here : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=216167

So now I no longer have to clock my main monitor at 75 Hz, it can stay at 60 Hz.

 

[Susscon]

I have found a way to run Elite on Extended Mode with Win10. I posted about it here : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=216167

So now I no longer have to clock my main monitor at 75 Hz, it can stay at 60 Hz.

Yeh this is what I was using myself up until the latest windows update broke the 0.5 from detecting the HMD, so it was a lot of messing around to get it working again, which is why i used the monitor tweak in this post because only the 0.7/0.8 runtime was being detected in the oculus config tool.

So today i tried out a few more suggestions and found one that worked with the oculus runtime 0.5 switch method to work again.

So if you have the same issues after a windows update. Use this tip from Ascendor81's post's and it fixed it for me.

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/com...ous_is_67_off_during_the_steam_autumn/cxd13o2

Thanks for the update regardless masCh, the more tweaks,fixes and workarounds for people to try, the better