Hardware & Technical DNS server not responding

So...I've been seeing this a lot lately. After a bit of fiddling and waiting around, it usually resolves itself, but i can't keep doing that forever. Is this a problem with my computer setup, or is it something else? Help plz!
 
A lot depends upon your set up.

Firstly, which protection software are you running? Anti-virus, Firewall, any others such as Ccleaner for example.

Second, is your hardware up to scratch?

Third, Are you connections clean?

fourth, Do you use a telephone to connect to the net or Fiber-optic?

Finally, if all that is fine, then you have something causing a holdup in your browser? Do you have some adware, or a hijacker. These are the most common.
 
I just had this a few weeks ago.
I'm using win 10. I don't really have an answer only that something was changing my DNS settings.
After a few days it went away.
 

Yaffle

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If you right-click on the network thingy down by the clock, and then go 'open network and sharing centre'

This will open a new window. Now click on the network you're connected to

Click properties

Scroll down to Internet Protocol v4 (TCPIP v4). Select it, click properties.

This should say (assuming your employer does not look after the machine) to set DNS automatically. For some reason my laptop keeps changing that to an internal network IP, causing DNS to fail.

You can, if you want, set it to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 if you want (these are Google DNS addresses) which may help if your ISP's DNS is a bit flakey.

Again, if you're using a work machine, don't mess with this stuff.
 
For some reason my laptop keeps changing that to an internal network IP, causing DNS to fail.

Ouch! Is it a Realtek GBE chip?

Windows has a nasty habit of reinstalling the 9.4 driver, seemingly at random, and that causes DNS to go to a 169 range.

10.3 fixes this - and is available as a windows update.

10.9 is the latest available driver, but Win 10 wants to go back to 9.4 :( Got to love automatic forced updates ;)
 
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Robert Maynard

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I've been suffering from my connection dropping for c.30 seconds at a time for a while now - I had put it down to my Powerline adapters but this sounds like another thing to try.

I'm on Driver Version 10.1.505.2015 - I'll try upgrading and see what happens.

.... not while in game, of course - I know what would happen then.... ;)

[edit] Downloaded latest driver install from Realtek direct - now Driver Version 10.9 and working fine. We'll see how long that lasts. If Windows 10 downgrades it I may throw a wobbler.

When I installed Windows 10 in the first place, it broke my NIC driver such that I was forced to download an older version on a different computer and install it just to get my PC running again.... [/edit]
 
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The only real solution is to not use Realtek. It's not that Realtek is bad, their chips do the job, but their driver support could be a lot better. It's not even their fault - Windows itself insists on running older driver releases. MS could fix that, but well, they never do.

Stuff a proper SMC or Intel NIC into a PCI slot and have done with it :D Get lower CPU useage too - and higher throughput.
 

Robert Maynard

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The only real solution is to not use Realtek. It's not that Realtek is bad, their chips do the job, but their driver support could be a lot better. It's not even their fault - Windows itself insists on running older driver releases. MS could fix that, but well, they never do.

Stuff a proper SMC or Intel NIC into a PCI slot and have done with it :D Get lower CPU useage too - and higher throughput.

I've just had another DNS related error - the usual first symptom is that Chrome stops responding.

I think I'll order a discrete NIC....

Would this one be suitable? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-EXPI9301CTBLK-PRO1000-Network-PCIex/dp/B001CY0P7G
 
I've just had another DNS related error - the usual first symptom is that Chrome stops responding.

I think I'll order a discrete NIC....

Would this one be suitable? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-EXPI9301CTBLK-PRO1000-Network-PCIex/dp/B001CY0P7G

Yeah - if you are just running Gigabit those are great. One thing to check though, before ordering new equipment - are your router settings. Is it your own router? Is it running the latest firmware? Does it belong to a cable company? Have they tried pushing a DOCSIS update to a DSL modem? (happened before!), or is their DNS primoids running on 386's and wet string?
 

Robert Maynard

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Yeah - if you are just running Gigabit those are great. One thing to check though, before ordering new equipment - are your router settings. Is it your own router? Is it running the latest firmware? Does it belong to a cable company? Have they tried pushing a DOCSIS update to a DSL modem? (happened before!), or is their DNS primoids running on 386's and wet string?

Sadly my ISP dictates both the router and its firmware. I'm on Fibre-to-the-cabinet.

I'll try this as a fix - have ordered one of those cards - if it's not that then I'll need to look elsewhere. <frowns at gigabit switch on top of desk linking three PCs to the same single-port Powerline adapter>
 
Sadly my ISP dictates both the router and its firmware. I'm on Fibre-to-the-cabinet.

I'll try this as a fix - have ordered one of those cards - if it's not that then I'll need to look elsewhere. <frowns at gigabit switch on top of desk linking three PCs to the same single-port Powerline adapter>

Urm, if you've got direct fibre - your best bet is getting a PCIE fibre card to match, and then hotlinking out via GBE to your switch - using your PC as the router :D

It's got to be better than anything some ISP squats out for free :D

As for Powerline - at a push I'd use it for one point. On a system I barely use. It's just not very good at all - but it is useful for emergencies.
 
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Robert Maynard

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Urm, if you've got direct fibre - your best bet is getting a PCIE fibre card to match, and then hotlinking out via GBE to your switch - using your PC as the router :D

It's got to be better than anything some ISP squats out for free :D

Nah - the fibre is not to the premises - just to the nearest cabinet - copper from there to my house.
 
Nah - the fibre is not to the premises - just to the nearest cabinet - copper from there to my house.

Well if you don't have fibre coming in direct, just treat it as a normal bearer. Inline - Router - Switch (if you must) - PC's. Put powerlines direct to router - don't switch them. If router has no switched ports, call your ISP and get one that does.
 

Robert Maynard

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Well if you don't have fibre coming in direct, just treat it as a normal bearer. Inline - Router - Switch (if you must) - PC's. Put powerlines direct to router - don't switch them. If router has no switched ports, call your ISP and get one that does.

Four port router is directly connected to Powerline adapter. Two of the five Powerline adapters are four port, all are 500Mbps.
 
Four port router is directly connected to Powerline adapter. Two of the five Powerline adapters are four port, all are 500Mbps.

Hmmm - you should be ok. Are these powerline adapters switches or hubs though? Remember the 5-4-3 rule - and also remember that UK mains is particularly bad for signal propagating.

Also - have you maybe created a loop someplace?
 
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Robert Maynard

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Hmmm - you should be ok. Are these powerline adapters switches or hubs though? Remember the 5-4-3 rule - and also remember that UK mains is particularly bad for signal propagating.

Also - have you maybe created a loop someplace?

The Powerlines worked flawlessly before I installed Windows 10 on this PC....

.... although I did ad one more into the mix when we put an extension on the back of the house a couple of years ago.

I'll need to read and understand the 5-4-3 rule when I'm more receptive to necessary information (i.e. fully awake).

Thanks! :)
 
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If you've added an extension that has it's own earthing point, then that might cause problems with the powerline.

I can't really tell for sure though - it's been many, many years since I've dealt with ring circuits, and powerline Ethernet wasn't even a glint in the milkmans eye back then :(
 
Haha, looks like it's a trending topic in general! Glad I'm not the only one... [haha]

A lot depends upon your set up.

Firstly, which protection software are you running? Anti-virus, Firewall, any others such as Ccleaner for example.

1. Just AVG anti virus software

Second, is your hardware up to scratch?

Third, Are you connections clean?

fourth, Do you use a telephone to connect to the net or Fiber-optic?

Finally, if all that is fine, then you have something causing a holdup in your browser? Do you have some adware, or a hijacker. These are the most common.

1. Just AVG antivirus
2. I believe so, only about 2 years old at this point
3. mmm I think so! Only me that uses it
4. It's a telephone connection

As for the other things, i can't think of anything that would cause a holdup. I don't use those things.

I was reading this digital guide and it looks helpful :) It suggests using a different browser or restarting the router. I'll give both a try tonight and see how that goes, will report back soon...[up]
 
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