Do we still see ED as being THE space game in 12 months?

DeletedUser191218

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I don't have a strong opinion. Just curious what others think. The recent SC demos have been pretty strong and i've observed Obsidianant for eg recently focussing on that and X4 instead of ED. Is ED getting stale i wonder? It's had a good run but maybe we're on the cusp of contenders for the crown taking it's place? Or will the unknown 'big' update we've been told to expect reassert it's dominance?? Personally i hope so. I hope it can fulfil it's planned 10 year life anyway.
 

Tarman

Tarman
Does it matter at all? It's not like HDD storage space is at 1989 premiums for cost/capacity. Pretty sure I have a hundred or so games installed right now. The taco kid is right, we can have both. Even all of them if SC decides to join the gang of actually playable games.
 

LeoBartlet

LeoBartlet
Rambojambo said:
I don't have a strong opinion. Just curious what others think. The recent SC demos have been pretty strong and i've observed Obsidianant for eg recently focussing on that and X4 instead of ED. Is ED getting stale i wonder? It's had a good run but maybe we're on the cusp of contenders for the crown taking it's place? Or will the unknown 'big' update we've been told to expect reassert it's dominance?? Personally i hope so. I hope it can fulfil it's planned 10 year life anyway.
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No idea but I can say that SC will not be out in 12 months time
 

StuartGT

StuartGT
Rambojambo said:
I don't have a strong opinion. Just curious what others think. The recent SC demos have been pretty strong and i've observed Obsidianant for eg recently focussing on that and X4 instead of ED. Is ED getting stale i wonder? It's had a good run but maybe we're on the cusp of contenders for the crown taking it's place? Or will the unknown 'big' update we've been told to expect reassert it's dominance?? Personally i hope so. I hope it can fulfil it's planned 10 year life anyway.
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Yep. Can't say why - NDA'd.

OA did a Star Citizen livestream to show his viewers Alpha 3.3 in the PTU (and the many problems it still has), and covered the CitizenCon event last week. X4 he's done one news video on, like he does with all new space games, and he'll be doing a feature on it after its release. He's also looking forward to trying out the other recent releases, especially Warframe's updates. These aren't instead of Elite, they're alongside like always - he's covered over 40 games since his channel began 4.5yr ago; his 3rd and 5th video weren't Elite. Sometimes I wonder why people think he should only do Elite videos :rolleyes:

If you want to chat with him, join the OA Discord: https://discord.gg/pVFcxRE

The next 5 livestreams and upcoming beta will greatly help Elite in the short term, and news of the new era that will follow later should interest a lot of people :)
 
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Vash627

Vash627
SC is probably never actually going to come out, X4 looks neat but it's still a single player experience, and while NMS did improve a lot since it launched it will likely never be what it was originally advertised as. I still see ED as being "the" space game for a long time to come, yes.
 

mastermaniac

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Rambojambo said:
I don't have a strong opinion. Just curious what others think. The recent SC demos have been pretty strong and i've observed Obsidianant for eg recently focussing on that and X4 instead of ED. Is ED getting stale i wonder? It's had a good run but maybe we're on the cusp of contenders for the crown taking it's place? Or will the unknown 'big' update we've been told to expect reassert it's dominance?? Personally i hope so. I hope it can fulfil it's planned 10 year life anyway.
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We're doing this, are we? Fine. My prediction: Elite is going to have its lunch eaten by X4. Frontier is practically letting it happen. Junior guys are out-Eliting Elite, which is nearly equal parts commendable and disheartening.

X4 has practically everything I've wanted in an Elite game. Evochron Legacy is practically a one-man show - that game also eats E D for dinner in nearly all areas save interface and graphics.

Elite "THE" space game? Oh, my sides.

Though I will admit, the "biggest space game disappointment" award solidly goes to Star Citizen. What a laughable deflation that steaming pile of schlock is. I keep wondering, "how are things in Star Citizen world," and when I look over their site I'm reminded what kind of "game" it is. It sells you worthless junk like those late-night/early morning TV ads do, practically with the same exact tone.
 
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Archvillain

Archvillain
Yes.
Something that seems frequently overlooked is that a big part of the reason that Elite's development is slow compared to other games is that there isn't off-the-shelf tech for this genre, meaning that any other space-sim game will face similar uphill struggles with even simple stuff that Elite faces, which in turn means that something coming in the next 12 months is likely to either be at the level of polish of Elite 2015, or be an iteration of something we already know about (NMS or SC). Elite has a serious head-start.

There are some more cool looking spaceship games coming soon (eg Rebel Galaxy Outlaw), and I think a lot of players here are going to enjoy the hell out of playing them, but I think Elite will be the grandaddy game that people eventually return to. (and leave for other new games again, rinse repeat, which is how it should be; if you play only Elite, you're just going to burn yourself out on it and stop enjoying it)

I think SC however is in a bad situation; they blew through too much money too quickly but people still expect value for that money. They could still finish a game, but I don't think they have a (financially viable) path to finishing a game of much single-player depth, other than PvP. Players blast through content quickly (this is a big problem for Elite too, but Elite at least has procedurally generated content to take some of the edge off that. I'm not sure how SC will handle it, my expectation is that it'll just be thin, or there will be a really ugly bankruptcy)


VR is still a minority of the market but... once I started playing Elite in VR, the idea of going backwards to play any spaceship game on a monitor holds little interest to me. Any spaceship game that isn't designed for VR is dead in the water as far as my personal interests go. If you like Elite and don't have VR, I recommend the upgrade.
 
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MrFailfactory

MrFailfactory
StuartGT said:
Yep. Can't say why - NDA'd.

OA did a Star Citizen livestream to show his viewers Alpha 3.3 in the PTU (and the many problems it still has), and covered the CitizenCon event last week. X4 he's done one news video on, like he does with all new space games, and he'll be doing a feature on it after its release. He's also looking forward to trying out the other recent releases, especially Warframe's updates. These aren't instead of Elite, they're alongside like always - he's covered over 40 games since his channel began 4.5yr ago; his 3rd and 5th video weren't Elite. Sometimes I wonder why people think he should only do Elite videos :rolleyes:

If you want to chat with him, join the OA Discord: https://discord.gg/pVFcxRE

The next 5 livestreams and upcoming beta will greatly help Elite in the short term, and news of the new era that will follow later should interest a lot of people :)
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There is a contradiction here from past posts - I'm not going to say more, but I find it very interesting, and I hope to learn myself soon.

Riôt
 

Quantis Trap

Quantis Trap
Elite Dangerous will still be a good game, but with competition finally increasing, they're going to have to work a bit harder and more importantly smarter this next year!

I don't think Star Citizen is competition in the short term but there several other games like X4 Foundations coming around that are good competition.
 

fu9ar

fu9ar
mastermaniac said:
We're doing this, are we? Fine. My prediction: Elite is going to have its lunch eaten by X4. Frontier is practically
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mastermaniac said:
letting it happen. Junior guys are out-Eliting Elite, which is nearly equal parts commendable and disheartening.

X4 has practically everything I've wanted in an Elite game. Evochron Legacy is practically a one-man show - that game also eats E D for dinner in nearly all areas save interface and graphics.

Elite "THE" space game? Oh, my sides.

Though I will admit, the "biggest space game disappointment" award solidly goes to Star Citizen. What a laughable deflation that steaming pile of schlock is. I keep wondering, "how are things in Star Citizen world," and when I look over their site I'm reminded what kind of "game" it is. It sells you worthless junk like those late-night/early morning TV ads do, practically with the same exact tone.
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Right now, Star Citizen is a janky horrorshow at it's best and will still be a janky horrorshow in 12 months. I think by then it is going to have more content creators making Twitch and YouTube content using the engine, but I doubt I'm ever going to get into it myself. The community surrounding it is already toxic and elitist and the game hasn't even dropped yet.

Idk about these other games... X seems cool for what it is, but I just want to fly my ship, not manage a dang business. The superhighway seems like something straight out of Heavy Metal, which is cool, but apparently X Rebirth was the worst of the bunch? Idk.

[video=youtube;EyDnQ48fNzU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyDnQ48fNzU[/video]

Evochron Legacy does not eat Elite for dinner... It seems neat, but don't be flipping ridiculous.
 

RamirezKurita

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While I am very much looking forward to X4 and it definitely has the potential to hit Elite's playerbase, it is ultimately quite a different game. Elite's fundamental core is a game about the future equivalent of white van men running around doing business in a variety of ways in an unforgiving but continually evolving and adapting galaxy (quite how much it lives up to this original vision is up for debate), while the X-series have always been some kind of business management / 4X hybrid that happened to be played from a cockpit. Obviously, X4 will offer the business management side to the whole thing that Elite never will (and never should) but I don't know if the combat flight model will ever be as good (X3's wasn't very good, but I've heard that combat was a relative saving grace of Rebirth). Similarly, Elite has vast potential with regards to the evolution of the galaxy and the aspects of procedural storytelling that the BGS can potentially offer while X4 will have its smaller, very mechanistic universe that doesn't go far beyond the economic and military simulations.

Overall, while Elite will have significant competition from X4 in 12 months, they are different enough that it will retain a core player base. Looking further into the future, Elite has much more potential due to its wider scope and having a much larger developer behind it, but it remains to be seen whether Frontier can build Elite into what it was originally meant to become.
 
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