Now that we know there won't be a wipe for gamma, I see a lot of people are upset because some players are getting a "head start", and the people who are forced to wait until the 16th (or even the beta people who haven't been playing during gamma) will be "behind" the other players. Elite isn't a competition, it's not a leaderboard type game where it's a race to "get to the top", there aren't ladder seasons nor rankings of the highest credit earners with rewards for the Best. Elite is a sandbox, a game where you play the way you want to and how you want to, and at your own pace, and in reality does a few days worth of game time for people other than yourself truly make your own experience with the game any less? Does it even really matter if a few players used an exploit or cheat to get millions of credits? Will that honestly have any impact on your own gameplay?
Do you really care how many credits other players are earning?
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Yeah - that's what I'm wondering about when I see all these posts about cheating. It doesn't affect my experience and someone elses rank and credits are none of my business.
Seems some people see it as a competition to reach x - their loss I'd say.
Seems some people see it as a competition to reach x - their loss I'd say.
Not really.
It does, however, provide a potentially useful yardstick by which to measure how effectively you are making credits yourself - if there is a big gap for similar activities this suggests having much more to learn or at least that there are better places to be doing whatever it is..
Provided that I'm having fun doing it though I'm not too fussed.
It does, however, provide a potentially useful yardstick by which to measure how effectively you are making credits yourself - if there is a big gap for similar activities this suggests having much more to learn or at least that there are better places to be doing whatever it is..
Provided that I'm having fun doing it though I'm not too fussed.
There are rumours of people cheating and people who have found a huge amount of credits in their accounts.
However I'm pretty sure that the developers can monitor this and fix things accordingly. I'm also sure that they have taken this into account before making the decsion on whether to wipe progress or not.
However I'm pretty sure that the developers can monitor this and fix things accordingly. I'm also sure that they have taken this into account before making the decsion on whether to wipe progress or not.
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Absolutely no interest whatsoever in how many pennies other players have. Kind of getting a bit bored with the whole "Look how many millions I've made" mentality.
Nope. The only point to trading (for me) is to fund ship purchases and insurance for other (less profitable but more fun) activities and the fact that someone is flying an Anaconda whilst I'm in my Type 6 or my Viper doesn't bother me in the slightest. I can occasionally play a few hours in the evening with the kids in bed, I will be horribly left behind by those able to play 5+ hours per day. I'm at peace with that.
I mean personally with the way I intend to play the game 90% of the time (sightseeing and exploring) I'll be lucky if I ever even get an Asp for myself, you don't earn many credits for just flying around looking at the scenery! So I welcome all of the players who are going to be buying and flying around in the huge fancy ships. Gives me more chances to see them out and about flying around. And if I get blown up by one then I'll just set out again from wherever I spawn back to, as "you can't take the sky from me." 
If they're doing MUCH better than me, while playing by the same rules, then I do notice.
When someone posts about making 50,000Cr per trip in a single jump that takes under 10 minutes, I do find myself wondering what the heck route they're running to manage that. Best I've eevr found myself is about 15,000Cr on a two-way round trip, but the flip-flop is 38,000Ls with a full hold and Crims just lining up to interdict me.
It's a reminder that I'm not doing as well as I could, particularly as every single player's activity does collectively affect trade routes and the like for every other player.
If someone has been playing longer, then that's just how it goes. I'm sure someone will see me fly by in my Hauler, see how much it costs and wonder how many stupid little 400Cr missions I did to earn THAT.
However, if someone is cheating/exploiting and making several million per trip or something, then that has an effect on everyones' game that *is* out of balance.
Were this a standalone/unconnected/whatever game, then fine - Their game, their choice. But this is collectively *our* game, so they should be playing fair in that respect.
When someone posts about making 50,000Cr per trip in a single jump that takes under 10 minutes, I do find myself wondering what the heck route they're running to manage that. Best I've eevr found myself is about 15,000Cr on a two-way round trip, but the flip-flop is 38,000Ls with a full hold and Crims just lining up to interdict me.
It's a reminder that I'm not doing as well as I could, particularly as every single player's activity does collectively affect trade routes and the like for every other player.
If someone has been playing longer, then that's just how it goes. I'm sure someone will see me fly by in my Hauler, see how much it costs and wonder how many stupid little 400Cr missions I did to earn THAT.
However, if someone is cheating/exploiting and making several million per trip or something, then that has an effect on everyones' game that *is* out of balance.
Were this a standalone/unconnected/whatever game, then fine - Their game, their choice. But this is collectively *our* game, so they should be playing fair in that respect.
The bottom line is this - I can control what I have, I can't control what anyone else has. - Therefore, what's out of my control doesn't bother me.
If those with credits buy a big ship and try ganking me - that's fine, I will undoubtedly have fun evading, running or even getting even - but I will still be ahving fun.
My story is excatly that, mine. It's like complaining that Bill Gates is richer than me...
If those with credits buy a big ship and try ganking me - that's fine, I will undoubtedly have fun evading, running or even getting even - but I will still be ahving fun.
My story is excatly that, mine. It's like complaining that Bill Gates is richer than me...
Could not say it better ! +1
particularly when consider that larger ships aren't necessarily better ships, it doesn't really matter
To be quite honest, I think anyone who voted "yes" is missing the point of E: D. It's not that type of game. In a galaxy of 400B systems, what other people are flying or have earned is completely and utterly irrelevant. If everyone on this thread - except for me - received a fully loaded Anaconda free in-game, I couldn't care less. COULD. NOT. CARE. LESS.
The Economy is an important part of this game. How you behave is effected by your money. If people are making counterfeit money they dont care about the value of it as much as the rest. So fines, crimes, suicide, danger, fear of death, mistakes, threat, all of this is removed from these players. They will play the game knowing they have nothing to lose.
With the best weapons and ships money can buy, they have no worry of police, no worry of being blown up, they are basically free to do what they like and ignore any sort of universe rules. Clock up billion credit bountys messing about, Maybe sit out side a spacestation shooting everybody they see till they blow up, respawn, repeat, respawn, repeat and do this until they get bored.
For those that say its not that type of game, these people will be trying their best to make it that way, shooting anyone on sight with no consequences.
People who have earned there money will be much more reluctant to do this.
With the best weapons and ships money can buy, they have no worry of police, no worry of being blown up, they are basically free to do what they like and ignore any sort of universe rules. Clock up billion credit bountys messing about, Maybe sit out side a spacestation shooting everybody they see till they blow up, respawn, repeat, respawn, repeat and do this until they get bored.
For those that say its not that type of game, these people will be trying their best to make it that way, shooting anyone on sight with no consequences.
People who have earned there money will be much more reluctant to do this.
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Does it really matter? A few weeks from now I'm going to be behind most players, including those who'll only start at the 16th. I don't care about becoming the first pilot to reach elite status.
I don't use external trade tools, I don't take notes, I have little spare time and I don't grind. I'm happy if I figure out a good traderoute, find a beautiful vista and I enjoy the game - no matter how many Anacondas are flying around me and regardless of how they obtained it.
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This is not a problem. for a few reasons:
1. We are not competing for scarce resources...our actions have little to do with the way the background simulation will set the economy. If the resources are scarce, we just have to wait until the next tick of the clock.
2. All credits will be worthless within a given time. Again, there are not enough sinks compared to the faucets. The only way this can be repaired is by creating scarcity throughout the galaxy, increasing costs across the board. This might work. I've not seen it work in an online game before...but hey, FD might pull a rabbit out of it's hat!
3. What will the new players do in 6 months when they come onboard and see everyone tricked out with all the goodies that are available? Demand a reboot?
This is what online multiplayer means. Accept it, because if you try to fight this, you will only be creating yourself more stress than it is worth.
1. We are not competing for scarce resources...our actions have little to do with the way the background simulation will set the economy. If the resources are scarce, we just have to wait until the next tick of the clock.
2. All credits will be worthless within a given time. Again, there are not enough sinks compared to the faucets. The only way this can be repaired is by creating scarcity throughout the galaxy, increasing costs across the board. This might work. I've not seen it work in an online game before...but hey, FD might pull a rabbit out of it's hat!
3. What will the new players do in 6 months when they come onboard and see everyone tricked out with all the goodies that are available? Demand a reboot?
This is what online multiplayer means. Accept it, because if you try to fight this, you will only be creating yourself more stress than it is worth.
Hey, if we are gifting out free ships, can mine be a fully loaded Asp? I'd choose the Asp over the Anaconda any day! No amount of upgrading to an Anaconda can give it that awesome glass dome viewability that the Asp has.
