dose J1407b exist in ED?

El Dragoon! · May 2, 2016

For those of you ignorant in the ways of astronomy, J1407b is a planet with the largest rings ever discovered , the rings are .6 AU, or 90mill km, it was discovered in 2012,

is this in ED? just wondering

The_Quasar · May 2, 2016

If it isn't, it should be... with several RES around it too!

Thetele · May 2, 2016

Where is it located? How far away from sol? Someone can go check if you can give its location (coordinates etc.).

If its closer than 300 ly to sol it probably isn't. But its easy to check.

Sapyx · May 3, 2016

This question has been asked numerous times, as a forum search for "J1407b" will reveal. Here's the oldest and largest thread on the subject, which also has some cool pictures of what the postulated planet would look like in the daytime sky of Earth if you were to replace Saturn with it.

"J1407" is an abbreviation for the media. The star's official catalogue designation is 1SWASP J140747.93-394542.6 - which obviously isn't on the ED starmap. Here's the wikipedia page about it, which gives the stats we need to know: 420 LY from Sol, in the direction of Centaurus. The star itself is a young K class pre-main-sequence star so would probably appear as one of those orange T-Tauris in the game; the thing with the giant rings is suspected of being an orbiting brown dwarf.

Now, stars usually have numerous different catalogue designations, and only one or at most two of those designations are used in the ED starmap. Here's the SIMBAD star database entry for it, which lists another eight catalogue designations for it. As far as I know, all nine names have been searched for and not found on the ED map. So sadly, it appears that the answer is no, this star and these awesome rings are not in the game at the moment.

Windscreen Smudge · May 3, 2016

As far as I know none of the officially discovered exoplanets have been added to ED. There are also a very large number of stars in the catalogs of celestial bodies that are not in the game.

Tens of thousands of them.

Frontier just doesn't have the manpower to put them in and then keep the game updated with all of the new additions. They'd need to double their dev team to make it happen at the pace they develop at.

Sad fact of the day. [sad]

Infidel Deity · May 3, 2016

@OP
Well, I certainly hope so!
And if not, I hope they find time; somehow, somewhere; to put it in.
The more authentic they manage to make the known parts of the Galaxy, the better.
And so far, of course; they have done a MORE than magnificent piece of art.

Looking very much forward, as I guess do all; to land on THE moon.

And I hope Ceres, Vesta, Eros and all the other rascals in The Belt comes into the fold as well.

So also I pray they will manage to put in the Mars moons of Phobos and Deimos, some day, before I die.
Next to THE moon, it was those I wanted to see most of all, when I got my Sol permit.
The Gates to Hell were there, in Doom and Doom 2.
Stuff of legends! [yesnod]

freedom4556 · May 3, 2016

Quite a few Keplerian systems are in E

, but at least a few I investigated (Kelper 452 being one of them) are enormously mis-positioned and possibly inaccessible even with jumponium. Search for KOI 452 (or other Kepler system). I was able to chart several, but I couldn't cross-correlate them with any discovered exoplanets due to my limited search engine kung-fu.

Kubicide · May 3, 2016

Windscreen Smudge said:
As far as I know none of the officially discovered exoplanets have been added to ED. There are also a very large number of stars in the catalogs of celestial bodies that are not in the game.

Tens of thousands of them.

Frontier just doesn't have the manpower to put them in and then keep the game updated with all of the new additions. They'd need to double their dev team to make it happen at the pace they develop at.

Sad fact of the day. [sad]

Sad fact indeed, and one that's been a disappointment since the launch.

FDev often touted how accurate "their ED galaxy" was but the reality is it's simply procedurally generated fiction. A few hand made regions fulfill the illusion. But it's far from being anything close to the real representation that's often touted. Maybe one day a developer will actually make a game that has realistic galaxies and elements that are actually in the universe.

El Dragoon! · May 3, 2016

thats called space engine bro, its like ed but with out the ships

dynamicbob · May 3, 2016

need to try and find a procedural gen that comes closest

Vingtetun · May 3, 2016

As far as my amateur research can tell.... Luhman 16, LHS 340 and WISE 0855-0714 are all in the right place.

twelvebore · May 3, 2016

Windscreen Smudge said:
As far as I know none of the officially discovered exoplanets have been added to ED. There are also a very large number of stars in the catalogs of celestial bodies that are not in the game.

That's not correct, there are real exoplanets in the game, including two (WASP-11 and WASP-29) that I discovered myself in my real-life job. I am an astronomer by profession, I work on the WASP project.

I took a road-trip to W-11 to see what FD have done with it. They have put the hot Jupiter we detected (WASP-11b) in the correct 3.9d orbit close to the star. In the ED labelling it is known as WASP-11 1 if I recall. They have put a bunch of other planets further out in orbit which are 90 degrees to the orbital plane of W-11b, which is quite clever because if those planets did exist they wouldn't be detectable in our data, nor the radial velocity follow-up.

Red 5 · May 3, 2016

twelvebore said:
That's not correct, there are real exoplanets in the game, including two (WASP-11 and WASP-29) that I discovered myself in my real-life job. I am an astronomer by profession, I work on the WASP project.

I took a road-trip to W-11 to see what FD have done with it. They have put the hot Jupiter we detected (WASP-11b) in the correct 3.9d orbit close to the star. In the ED labelling it is known as WASP-11 1 if I recall. They have put a bunch of other planets further out in orbit which are 90 degrees to the orbital plane of W-11b, which is quite clever because if those planets did exist they wouldn't be detectable in our data, nor the radial velocity follow-up.

Words cannot describe how giddy this makes me. What a thrill that must've been for you to see it in game! And congratulations on your actual discovery!

I hope you at least got "First Discovered By" in-game for your trouble. That'd be poetic.

twelvebore · May 3, 2016

Yes it's quite gratifying to see them in the game. I presume that there are many other WASP planets in the game too, but they haven't been discovered by explorers yet (we've discovered more than 150 so far, no idea when FD took the snapshot of the exoplanet catalogue).

I'd love to see one of the WASP systems colonized!