..dropping out , I believe its your problem ED, not mine.

Nope, but it could be an issue with your ISP or between your ISP and FDEV's servers. just blaming it all on FDEV doesn't get anything fixed if it's not an issue with them. I rarely have dropouts, and as far as I can recall never had an initial connection problem, always connects first time. If it was all FDEV's problem then it should affect all players equally, and it doesn't. There are troubleshooting steps you can take to track down connection issues between you and FDEV but people will almost never do that, it's much easier just to blame FDEV than actually do some work to try and fix the problem. Just because game A has no networking issues doesn't mean game B won't, different server locations, different network routes, different countries even. If you aren't willing to investigate networking issues you will never get them fixed.
Took those steps. Didn't work. Made things worse in some cases. Other games networking does work, so I play other games when ED is networking is notworking. Glad it works for you, and pretend it's my fault it doesn't work for me all you want.
 
Took those steps. Didn't work. Made things worse in some cases. Other games networking does work, so I play other games when ED is networking is notworking. Glad it works for you, and pretend it's my fault it doesn't work for me all you want.

What steps exactly?
 
If it was all FDEV's problem then it should affect all players equally
That's not necessarily true.

Let's say one (and only one) of Frontier's matchmaking servers has some left over test firewall config on it that blocks connections from IP addresses ending in a 7 [1].
  • Some people will never have an issue with this at all
  • Some people will experience intermittent issues varying from rare to common depending on how often that server is selected by their client.
  • Some people will find that cleaning their router helps (because turning it off and on again reallocates their IP)
  • Some people will find that contacting their ISP helps (because one thing they may try is clearing DHCP leases and reallocating the IP)
  • Some people will have a permanent unfixable issue (because they're allocated a static IP ending in a 7)
All of this in this hypothetical is entirely due to a problem that is Frontier's responsibility, despite it having extremely random effects on players, and some players being able to accidentally work around it.

(In this sort of case, making support requests with netlogs is potentially very valuable, as that's the sort of thing which might lead to someone in Support spotting "hey, all this requests involve matchmaking server C, maybe we should rebuild it and see if the problem goes away")

[1] I've deliberately picked an implausible example, but I had to deal with a support request this week which was essentially caused by a more plausible version of the same thing; works for some customers, not for others, was entirely our configuration at fault because a specific type of network rule intended for one scenario had accidentally been applied to another. Easy fix once we'd figured out why half the people on the "what is going on here?" call could replicate it and half couldn't.
 
G'day all,
I submitted a ticket and was pleasantly surprised with the speed and suggestions by Customer Service to try and solve the problem.
After several days the problem still existed, so I started to have another 'think session' about what at my end could possibly be affecting the speed and causing a drop out
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Then it came to me , a thought, could it be my router? It's about the only link in the Broadband service between the modem and the ethernet cable to my PC.
I removed the router out of the configuration and direct linked to the PC from the modem, and guess what?

Odyssey now works like a charm
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I was wrong, it was not Frontiers fault, don't mind admitting it, it was my fault .. So I humbly apologize.
And thank the support team who were still working on solving the cause when I discovered the fault very early this morning.
Cheers all and thank you all for your comments and suggestions.
Yours Aye
CMDR D38
 
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Came here to suggest taking a look at your router instead of blaming everyone else. Turns out you realised in the end that it was, in fact, your router. Well done for coming to your senses publically.
 
What steps exactly?
All of the ones in the "port forwarding" thread. Together and separately attempting to get reliable networking in the game. Even trace route seems to come back decent, nothing in it that is different than it would be for Vermintide II, but 5 minutes later I am getting a disconnect. Deleted my block list, all that did was have me look like I was clogging while my opponent rubberbanded around the screen.
In the end, what seems to work best solo, is using a VPN that puts me in NYC. That does not work if you want to play with others though. In fact it makes it worse. ED networking is spotty, that's it. In every place and city I have lived in, (Dallas, Austin, Houston, OKC), on multiple PCs, and multiple internet services, over the last several years. I no longer even care why, and assume a fix is never coming. I am only in this thread because it would annoy me to let white knights run around gaslighting others. Yes, the networking seems to work for some, in certain places, but it is not a uniform experience.
 
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This game has some of the worst networking of any other. People here have just gotten used to it and so don't complain about it as much, just try to log on again. Even said people need to clean their routers before lol, which doesn't hold up when literally every other network/multiplayer game works fine for them but this one has disconnects.

Give multicrew a try; go ahead, just give it a try :D
 
Yes, you can, I use that one a lot when paying a surprise visit to inhabited lawful settlements... They are normally not inhabited when I leave, and I have another Power Regulator.
not to hijack the thread, but you know, I go in to the settlement with great intentions, have a beer at the bar, say hi to people and then all I get is 'what are you looking at??" "move along" and then the settlement is depopulated and I also have another power regulator...
 
This game has some of the worst networking of any other. People here have just gotten used to it and so don't complain about it as much, just try to log on again. Even said people need to clean their routers before lol, which doesn't hold up when literally every other network/multiplayer game works fine for them but this one has disconnects.

Give multicrew a try; go ahead, just give it a try :D

I've done virtual multicrew and physical multicrew many times. A friend and I use one large ship with 2 fighters, take off together and duel head to head.
 
I turned my ISP supplied kit into modem mode and bought a proper Asus router. I dont have problems.
Quite so - I dont think people realise that their ISP gives them the most cost reduced modem/router they can buy - in many cases the processor of the WiFi chip is left having to handle all the firewall and routing and UI and mostly they are woefully inadequate. This is to save the need for a dedicated processor to handle everything. Add that to the most basic WiFi implementation with printed antennas ( my ISP supplied router has 10x less radiated output power than my ASUS one) and you are just not going to have fun!
 
All of the ones in the "port forwarding" thread. Together and separately attempting to get reliable networking in the game. Even trace route seems to come back decent, nothing in it that is different than it would be for Vermintide II, but 5 minutes later I am getting a disconnect. Deleted my block list, all that did was have me look like I was clogging while my opponent rubberbanded around the screen.
In the end, what seems to work best solo, is using a VPN that puts me in NYC. That does not work if you want to play with others though. In fact it makes it worse. ED networking is spotty, that's it. In every place and city I have lived in, (Dallas, Austin, Houston, OKC), on multiple PCs, and multiple internet services, over the last several years. I no longer even care why, and assume a fix is never coming. I am only in this thread because it would annoy me to let white knights run around gaslighting others. Yes, the networking seems to work for some, in certain places, but it is not a uniform experience.

So what works best is leaving your ISP network by VPN'ing into another ISP's network, and using their infrastructure to play the game and it works fine, does this give us a hint maybe?
 
All of the ones in the "port forwarding" thread. Together and separately attempting to get reliable networking in the game. Even trace route seems to come back decent, nothing in it that is different than it would be for Vermintide II, but 5 minutes later I am getting a disconnect. Deleted my block list, all that did was have me look like I was clogging while my opponent rubberbanded around the screen.
In the end, what seems to work best solo, is using a VPN that puts me in NYC. That does not work if you want to play with others though. In fact it makes it worse. ED networking is spotty, that's it. In every place and city I have lived in, (Dallas, Austin, Houston, OKC), on multiple PCs, and multiple internet services, over the last several years. I no longer even care why, and assume a fix is never coming. I am only in this thread because it would annoy me to let white knights run around gaslighting others. Yes, the networking seems to work for some, in certain places, but it is not a uniform experience.

Back when people started using VPNs to get round issues it was found that (most of?) the problems were being caused by packet length issues - so the MTU fix was suggested and that seemed to iron out most of the problematic ISP issues. So have you tried changing your MTU? Is that still in the support FAQs?
 
So what works best is leaving your ISP network by VPN'ing into another ISP's network, and using their infrastructure to play the game and it works fine, does this give us a hint maybe?
If that was not required to reliably play solo through 5 different ISP's in 4 different major cities, on 3 different, modern at the time I was using them, gaming PCs, running current fully updated OS, while every other game I play, with the VPN off, continues to work fine, perhaps it would hint at something other than ED networking being crap.
 
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