Dropping out of FS, almost on top of a white dwarf?

Fray

Fray
I must've made hundreds of jumps across the Sidewinder, Adder, and Cobra III, and I've never had what happened last night with a new Viper IV.

It's a system I've jumped to before in the Cobra, and the white dwarf was as avoidable as all the other more general main sequence stars. 'Cept this time, in my first jump into that system with the Viper, I dropped almost right on top of the damn thing... I had absolutely no time whatsoever to orient away, and I was forced into an emergency drop.

No serious damage was done, and I got away just fine after powering some systems down. Binaries can sometimes be a little tricky, but you still have time to orient between or away from them. But in this instance, I had no way of avoiding a hard drop. What changed? Does it have anything to do with the drive or mass of the new ship? Or is it simply a rare bug? I doubt the former, but if it is the case then I want to know what I can do to make sure it doesn't happen again.

I didn't capture it, as I was too concerned with not frying on the way to conclude business for the Federation Navy... But I did screenshot the system - it's LHS 1547.
 

ArbitraryCoder5

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As a trick I've been taught by my friends who are explorers, if you jump to your next system out of supercruise (normal space) if you align with your target system and turn off flight assist you'll jump in on them going 30km/s
 

Flash_Baggins

Flash_Baggins
ArbitraryCoder5 said:
As a trick I've been taught by my friends who are explorers, if you jump to your next system out of supercruise (normal space) if you align with your target system and turn off flight assist you'll jump in on them going 30km/s
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An easier way of doing this is throttling down in hyperspace- works everytime (on pc anyway)
 

Troy Burgeon

Troy Burgeon
ArbitraryCoder5 said:
As a trick I've been taught by my friends who are explorers, if you jump to your next system out of supercruise (normal space) if you align with your target system and turn off flight assist you'll jump in on them going 30km/s
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Good to know this, i normally throttle down during count down sequence also, i use the FA off to twist and align with my target whilst in combat now i have another use for it. +rep :)
 

Fray

Fray
BongoBaggins said:
Have you ever been to a neutron star? They do that.
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Nope, but I've seen enough white dwarfs, and I've never had that 'here, have a star in your face' incident.

I'm just curious as to whether the cause can be pinned down. If I never needed to use techniques to ensure safe, slow drops before (even in the same system), why now with the Viper?
 

demonj00

demonj00
Fray said:
I must've made hundreds of jumps across the Sidewinder, Adder, and Cobra III, and I've never had what happened last night with a new Viper IV.

It's a system I've jumped to before in the Cobra, and the white dwarf was as avoidable as all the other more general main sequence stars. 'Cept this time, in my first jump into that system with the Viper, I dropped almost right on top of the damn thing... I had absolutely no time whatsoever to orient away, and I was forced into an emergency drop.

No serious damage was done, and I got away just fine after powering some systems down. Binaries can sometimes be a little tricky, but you still have time to orient between or away from them. But in this instance, I had no way of avoiding a hard drop. What changed? Does it have anything to do with the drive or mass of the new ship? Or is it simply a rare bug? I doubt the former, but if it is the case then I want to know what I can do to make sure it doesn't happen again.

I didn't capture it, as I was too concerned with not frying on the way to conclude business for the Federation Navy... But I did screenshot the system - it's LHS 1547.
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Not sure but it could be the system you are dropping in from. Like it is fine from x,y,z system but another system might drop you too close?
 

Fray

Fray
demonj00 said:
Not sure but it could be the system you are dropping in from. Like it is fine from x,y,z system but another system might drop you too close?
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Hadn't thought of that. I'll try to do a few test jumps next time - my Cobra's close by so I can try both ships from a few angles. I'll pack some heat sinks for the Viper this time, though...
 

Docjas18

Docjas18
White dwarfs do not usually give you much time. Some T-Tauri Stars resemble white dwarfs and being T Tauri they are significantly cooler and safer. Perhaps this was your first real white dwarf. Of course I'm speculating cause I've been fooled before myself.

Ive had a long day too so I could be very confused...
 

jpinkston70

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On my way home from Sag*A, I jumped into a system that had two stars right next to each other. I ended up jumping into one when I entered the system. It made me emergency drop and I got stuck between two M class stars I believe is what they were. Glad I had heat sinks on my DBS or I would have fried and lost all that data lol.
 

Fray

Fray
Docjas18 said:
White dwarfs do not usually give you much time. Some T-Tauri Stars resemble white dwarfs and being T Tauri they are significantly cooler and safer. Perhaps this was your first real white dwarf. Of course I'm speculating cause I've been fooled before myself.
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Nah, it was a white dwarf (they're listed), and it's not the first I've encountered.

I tried a handful of jumps back into the system from different angles, and I didn't again encounter what prompted me to post this thread. I'm still not sure why 'close calls' in a Viper IV are much closer than close calls in, say, the Cobra III. The throttle down technique does work, but that's not something I want to do in every jump at all, and unless you look ahead along your plotted route, you're not going to know a white dwarf's going to ambush you on the other side (sure, you could switch the map to the star tab, but that'd be a nuisance).

jpinkston70 said:
On my way home from Sag*A, I jumped into a system that had two stars right next to each other. I ended up jumping into one when I entered the system. It made me emergency drop and I got stuck between two M class stars I believe is what they were. Glad I had heat sinks on my DBS or I would have fried and lost all that data lol.
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The Pleiades is the farthest I've been with scanning (encountered a few close binaries, but could orient away or 'between' them well enough), so I dread to think how much credits you'd lose if you crashed and burned during a return leg from A*. I'm waiting for Horizons to outfit a ship for some real exploration runs, so I'm sure I'll have plenty of funtimes with close calls soon enough...
 

Dolphinrapture

Dolphinrapture
Just a lone white dwarf?

Wait till this happens.

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