DS4 Back Button's

Clarity Page

Clarity Page
Hi Commanders,
I was thinking that the back button add-on that Sony are releasing could be a significant game changer for DS4 control schemes, Personally I want to use them for yaw.

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We know that it can act as pretty much any button on the controller in which case we won't gain two buttons but we will gain more easily accessible buttons.
I've got my fingers crossed that we will be able to set them to new inputs like L4 & R4 and that Elite will utilize the new inputs.

Any how what are your thoughts and hopes for the addon? are you getting one?

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Stinja

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Not sure if i'll get one. It seems very limited, and i'd like something with more accessibility options (for us getting older) with things like allowing two button presses at once (eg: triangle + circle as a single input), and autofire (due to RSI furious button tapping can be problematic).

I guess Sony want to position it for "pro gamers", like actual professional tournaments not amateurs who think they're good, so don't want anything enabled which could be a competitive advantage. Whereas i'd like it from an accessibility angle, which even Microsoft is getting in on.
 

Laertus

Laertus
Clarity Page said:
Hi Commanders,
I was thinking that the back button add-on that Sony are releasing could be a significant game changer for DS4 control schemes, Personally I want to use them for yaw.

playstation-4-ps4-dualshock-4-back-button-attachment-2.jpg

We know that it can act as pretty much any button on the controller in which case we won't gain two buttons but we will gain more easily accessible buttons.
I've got my fingers crossed that we will be able to set them to new inputs like L4 & R4 and that Elite will utilize the new inputs.

Any how what are your thoughts and hopes for the addon? are you getting one?

Signing out,
Capt Page
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I just got mine and set it up in Elite for the L3 and R3 buttons since it's easier than clicking. It worked once and then all my keybindings went screwy and weren't actually performing the functions they were assigned. The only way I could get my original keybindings to function was to restart the game. It happened every time so I just took the back button off. It doesn't seem to play nicely withe Elite.
 

Clarity Page

Clarity Page
Laertus said:
I just got mine and set it up in Elite for the L3 and R3 buttons since it's easier than clicking. It worked once and then all my keybindings went screwy and weren't actually performing the functions they were assigned. The only way I could get my original keybindings to function was to restart the game. It happened every time so I just took the back button off. It doesn't seem to play nicely withe Elite.
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That's sucky, I wonder why it messed things up? afterall it was specifically designed not to cause compatibility issues.
 

Laertus

Laertus
Stinja said:
Sounds like a bug report is needed.
If FDev are not conforming to Sony's expected peripheral compatibility, they may even fix it?! o_O
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I tried to report it on the bug report page. The "steps to reproduce" field is required but will not accept any text I type. Not sure where to go from there.
 

GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
Laertus said:
I tried to report it on the bug report page. The "steps to reproduce" field is required but will not accept any text I type. Not sure where to go from there.
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Get a better browser. :p
Report filled in via PC firefox browser for you... (you have to type more than 30 digits or sections don't complete)

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The product is not licensed to SIEE region till feb 14th legal sale date... NA got it early..
 
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[PS4] Filthymick420

[PS4] Filthymick420
GraphiteGB said:
Get a better browser. :p
Report filled in via PC firefox browser for you... (you have to type more than 30 digits or sections don't complete)

webapp

issues.frontierstore.net issues.frontierstore.net
The product is not licensed to SIEE region till feb 14th legal sale date... NA got it early..
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That shouldn't be required at all. Perhaps somebody playing on a PS4 doesn't own a computer and can only file bug reports on their phone.

This brings in a more serious issue as to, why isn't there an in-game bug report option?
 

Stinja

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The game is worldwide, and it's not like this is a surprise release.

So no official word from the live stream?
Can people please bump the bug report, so it hits the minimum magic number to be a "real bug" :/
 

ssora83

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Works for me. Set to L3 and R3 for my lateral thrusters. No issues, and nice to now have all thrusters and yaw bound to the controller, without having to switch to alternate flight controls.

It's worked on every game I've tried so far.
 

Migor

Migor
Does this replace youre buttons or out on extra? Cant really figure that out. Do you get 2 more buttons
 

GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
Migor said:
Does this replace youre buttons or out on extra? Cant really figure that out. Do you get 2 more buttons
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Its exactly the same as every other back buttons and paddles on all the other controllers but only 2 buttons instead of 4 paddels from scuff controllers. you choose the buttons.. and you save profiles for your games..
It Duplicates 2 of the "Existing" all ready built in to standard controller buttons to the back... so you can reach them... with extra fingers never letting go of the dual analogue sticks for those buttons.
IF they added 4 like scuff you could replace all 4 face buttons with a button on the Back its not a new function... Its SIE trying to grab a share of the money lost to Others buying third party controllers for this function...
 
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GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
The issue remains unconfirmed and NO other users are selecting to agree that there back buttons also malfunction and confirm it on the tracker..
Seeing as bug fixes are done on a popularity contest vote system it not going to be on the list...

SIE is not under any requirement to send Fdev a free version just like the HORI HOTAS and all other EU controllers are not required to be sent to every developer So theres very little likely hood of Fdev ordering one from amazon at there own cost at all...
There still is no HORI HOTAS preset in Elite Dangerous ( It may be crap but its still SIE licensed. )
 

GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
Extra info for balance.
You don't have to by scuf controllers.
EU company nacon also make third party controllers with back buttons... the revolution controller version 3... but its Xbox lay out..
 

Laertus

Laertus
GraphiteGB said:
The issue remains unconfirmed and NO other users are selecting to agree that there back buttons also malfunction and confirm it on the tracker..
Seeing as bug fixes are done on a popularity contest vote system it not going to be on the list...

SIE is not under any requirement to send Fdev a free version just like the HORI HOTAS and all other EU controllers are not required to be sent to every developer So theres very little likely hood of Fdev ordering one from amazon at there own cost at all...
There still is no HORI HOTAS preset in Elite Dangerous ( It may be crap but its still SIE licensed. )
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I tested it again this morning and the error is still occurring. If I use one of the back paddles it reverses the settings for my pitch axis, even though my key bindings have not changed. If I use the same paddle again, it reverses the setting again, still with no changes to key bindings in options. I'm glad your setup is working, mine is not.

Edit:Solved - A friend found the cause. I mapped L3 to the left paddle, then mapped L3 to 0% thrust. Apparently, L3 is hardcoded to switch to alternate control schemes, so when I hit my 0% thrust it stopped me AND switched to alternate controls every time. I do not know a way to stop this, if anyone has suggestions I'd love to hear them.
 
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