Dual Stick Games?

Virgile

Virgile
Hi.

I already had a hotas T16OOOM like this one :https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster...e=UTF8&qid=1514078343&sr=1-2&keywords=t16000m

Someone offered me another stick (16000M) for Christmas...
So before I sell it, I'd like to know if Dual stick config like this, could be viabe on Elite or any other game? :
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Chris Simon

Chris Simon
Looking at your collection of sticks and mice/tracks, I'm kinda surprised you've only got one keyboard. :D

It's cool, though. I always wanted to try dual joysticks. It seems more spaceshippy to me. Although with Elite clearly being more of an airplane mode...
 

AJW

AJW
Adept said:
DCS helicopters?
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Not ideal. You need a throttle control (or something similar) for the collective, since you need to be able to leave it in any position, to operate ancillary controls etc. Both joysticks shown have built in throttles, but you can't use either of them if you are holding both joysticks.

At a pinch, you could manage using just a single twist-stick joystick/throttle combo, but I suspect most people would find it easiest to fly choppers like the real thing: Collective in one hand (a throttle will do for this, preferably a hotas type with buttons etc), cyclic in the other , and rudder pedals for yaw. Helicopters are tricky beasts, and you frequently find yourself having to juggle all three primary controls at the same time.
 
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Virgile

Virgile
Chris Simon said:
Looking at your collection of sticks and mice/tracks, I'm kinda surprised you've only got one keyboard. :D

It's cool, though. I always wanted to try dual joysticks. It seems more spaceshippy to me. Although with Elite clearly being more of an airplane mode...
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Oh no it's not mine I jut took the photo on the internet for the example...
( Don't have that much mice and tracks but my screens are clearly better :D )

AJW said:
Not ideal. You need a throttle control (or something similar) for the collective, since you need to be able to leave it in any position, to operate ancillary controls etc. Both joysticks shown have built in throttles, but you can't use either of them if you are holding both joysticks.

At a pinch, you could manage using just a single twist-stick joystick/throttle combo, but I suspect most people would find it easiest to fly choppers like the real thing: Collective in one hand (a throttle will do for this, preferably a hotas type with buttons etc), cyclic in the other , and rudder pedals for yaw. Helicopters are tricky beasts, and you frequently find yourself having to juggle all three primary controls at the same time.
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Thanx for the advice everyone!

I also had a look at recent Mech games, but apparently most of them play like fps nowadays...
 
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Adept

Adept
AJW said:
Not ideal. You need a throttle control (or something similar) for the collective, since you need to be able to leave it in any position, to operate ancillary controls etc. Both joysticks shown have built in throttles, but you can't use either of them if you are holding both joysticks.

At a pinch, you could manage using just a single twist-stick joystick/throttle combo, but I suspect most people would find it easiest to fly choppers like the real thing: Collective in one hand (a throttle will do for this, preferably a hotas type with buttons etc), cyclic in the other , and rudder pedals for yaw. Helicopters are tricky beasts, and you frequently find yourself having to juggle all three primary controls at the same time.
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How well would a full HC HOTAS setup work? (Fighterstick)
 

AJW

AJW
Adept said:
How well would a full HC HOTAS setup work? (Fighterstick)
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Not quite sure what you are asking. A real helicopter is controlled in pitch and roll via a joystick (normally held in your right hand), and in yaw via rudder pedals. The left hand operates the collective lever, which moves up and down. A sim pilot needs three-axis (pitch, roll, yaw) self-centering controls, plus a lever or slider of some sort (e.g. a HOTAS throttle) for the collective, to duplicate this. Or at least, you do for something like DCS, where the helicopter responds in a similar manner to the real thing. Though no doubt someone will come along and say they can fly the DCS Huey with nothing but a keyboard - sim pilots are a weird lot, and will use the strangest control setups. I should know, because I fly (IL-2 Sturmovik, ED, DCS etc) using a joystick (with built-in throttle), rudder pedals and two gamepads fixed to a board: the gamepads are there to provide extra buttons until I can afford a proper HOTAS...
 

the100thmonkey

the100thmonkey
Virgile said:
Do you think pedals are needed to go with 2 sticks?
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If your sticks have twist, you have all the axes you need: A pair of pedals will add to the complexity of learning to fly again. They do make certain manoeuvres easier, however. It's quite difficult to get full extension on three axes with just twist on the stick.

So no, it's not strictly necessary, IMO, to have pedals, but they can add to your game
 
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