NPCs/Bots so players can actually get a quick game going when logging in.
Not holding my breath.
Not holding my breath.
CQC Easy one step revival of CQC
- Thread starter Globusdiablo
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I fully agree with the need for bots/NPCs to allow for reasonable game creation times, but you bring up a good point. They could just nerf the XP from NPCs kills rather than making it actually zero if they can't make decent AI...
I agree with the OP. I am somewhat surprised that this hasn't already been implemented as the main game already has AI for the NPCs. CQC is generally well received but for the lack of players which makes finding a game inordinately difficult. I don't understand why Frontier doesn't make this a priority as CQC seems primed for popularity.
Even CQC noob is a harder opponent that NPC.. at least they are unpredictable and learn to use environment to their advantage.. and after a fairly short time use power ups and defences correctly too... NPCs cannot do it and they cannot learn.
Oh and CQC is very much alive... at least in peak times 6pm - 10pm UK time
I was a total noob in January this year. I was going through stages of being persistently stomped on by veterans.. to eventually developing a skin of a rhino and pushing towards my goals despite being constantly chased and picked on by more experienced players... and then ganked by less experienced players.. And now I probably can beat most of the people that appear in Deathmatch.
I'm only a day or two away from Elite rank just after 3 months of playing. Yes I almost live in CQC Deathmatch and you can see me there very often.
I haven't played the main game properly for months because of CQC. I see the 'searching for match' screen for hours every day... still I think adding bots to CQC would be the worst thing that can happen to it...
I think people should be rewarded way better for playing CQC.. that would bring more people to CQC than anythng... i.e. solid 3 weeks of CQC (in a period of 3 months) and I earned less than 20 mln CR for it... there should be more CR for playing CQC, some decals for achievements.. maybe special paints for ships..
Oh and lets not forget CQC discord channel to find people to play with in non-peak times..... https://discord.me/elitedangerouscqc
I was a total noob in January this year. I was going through stages of being persistently stomped on by veterans.. to eventually developing a skin of a rhino and pushing towards my goals despite being constantly chased and picked on by more experienced players... and then ganked by less experienced players.. And now I probably can beat most of the people that appear in Deathmatch.
I'm only a day or two away from Elite rank just after 3 months of playing. Yes I almost live in CQC Deathmatch and you can see me there very often.
I haven't played the main game properly for months because of CQC. I see the 'searching for match' screen for hours every day... still I think adding bots to CQC would be the worst thing that can happen to it...
I think people should be rewarded way better for playing CQC.. that would bring more people to CQC than anythng... i.e. solid 3 weeks of CQC (in a period of 3 months) and I earned less than 20 mln CR for it... there should be more CR for playing CQC, some decals for achievements.. maybe special paints for ships..
Oh and lets not forget CQC discord channel to find people to play with in non-peak times..... https://discord.me/elitedangerouscqc
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Eh, a couple years ago when CQC wasn't quite so dead and I could regularly find matches, most of the players presented no challenge at all. Even if bots ignored powerups and were stupid about terrain, they can at least aim, manage pips correctly, and notice they're getting shot in the back.
Bots also are nice because you can completely slaughter them when you're in the mood for that sort of thing, and not feel guilty about being overbearing on some poor noob player who never stood a chance.
I'm afraid that's of limited help to everyone outside that timezone. The Discord does help some, but only somewhat. Part of the trouble is that these days there are fewer noobs than vets, so even if you do successfully "summon" a game it's going to be super intense. It's better than nothing, marginally, but if I want a "casual" CQC game, where I don't have to be super-focused and intense to win, I can't find one right now. Occasionally just shooting mindless bots sounds lovely.
Backfilling players with bots would make it easier to find games with players, because the biggest obstacle to CQC is that people hit the "waiting for match" screen and give up after 5 minutes. (If you were always guaranteed a game, even if only against bots, more people would be doing it).
Bot-only matches would give players who don't like PvP a way to enjoy the mode. It would also give low-confidence players a safe space to build their confidence and basic skills. In my mind it would absolutely, definitely make CQC/Arena better and more appealing.
But it's not cheap to build, certainly not "easy" or "one-step." Frontier has made the perfectly sane choice to invest their effort in the main game instead. It makes me sad, but I get it.
If no players are around, it would be frustrating to never be able to unlock modules.
Still better than what we have today, of course...
im very interested in cqc but dont have the time to search or wait for the right time when other players are online. i also want to be able to unlock something .... and as Sushi said: it would be frustrating to not be able to unlock anything. at least some xp are necessary when bots get blown up. i cant relay on other players to get into my games. in worst case i have to change the game because there are no other players.
as you said, peak times. and being exclusive to UK. in Australia I can wait for an hour with no battles. I like the idea of bots as long as they are challenging to kill. Same Cr and Xp but they'd have to be worth it. then I might give CQC another go!
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Agreed
Also, let us start playing while we wait for the required number of players - many games do this, letting players have some fun before the match officially begins
Would also be cool if you could stay in the main game while you wait for the match, that way you could get some stuff done versus sitting in a lobby screen