Elite: Carebear

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babelfisch

babelfisch
With all the recent threads about PvP, PvE, Open, Solo, Blocking, CLogging and Logout timers fighting on forums seems to be a thing again. As usual, everyone who prefers to not get randomly shot at for no apparent reason is getting called carebear, coward and special snowflake. There are also remarks about hiding in solo, the game being called Elite: Dangerous, a cut throat galaxy, people fearing the risk and playing as advertised. I think I have named them all.

The goal always seems to be to get traders in Open and to have them stay and fight when they get attacked. Or to discredit someone's argument. But if the best argument is that people should fear no risk, that they should be no carebears, why is it that you always chose to attack the weakest? You only fight if you have nothing to fear, isn't that exactly what you accuse them of?

I have no problem with people playing pirates and traders or cops and robbers. But if you want to insult others for their preferred playstyle you should look who is talking, carebear ;)
 
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Crank Larson

Crank Larson
Personally, I think both sides of the debate seem to get a little wound up unnecessarily. Neither combat logging nor "ganking" affects me. I don't combat log, and wouldn't care if anyone did combat log on me. I've been attacked and destroyed by other human players when I wasn't expecting it, and when it could be argued that there was no reason to do so. But who needs a reason? (I believe that this is the definition that most people are using for ganking, but I'm not really sure as to me it's just a ship being blown up by another).

If I don't want any adverse encounters, I'll play in a private group. But I like playing in Open also, and play that mode in a completely different state of mind (assume that anything with a hollow dot is an enemy, until you know otherwise...).

In short, it's a game. Why get wound up about it?
 

Necronaught

Necronaught
Those calling others care bears suddenly switch to solo while engineering their ships. Funny that init. Station ganking going on who wants to play in open at a cg? Möbius is probably what it would be like in RL. People conducting themselves civilly instead of 90's death match. How far you snotty millennial's have come.
 

dayrth

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dayrth
Snowflake comes from the (probably erroneous) fact that no two snowflakes are alike. It means someone who believes themselves special and unique and that their opinion should be listened to. Therefor it can be applied to ANYONE who posts on a forum (myself included). If we didn't think we should be listened to we wouldn't bother posting.

Name calling though is what people resort to when they have nothing valid to say. Never understood it myself. If you have to resort to insults then you have already lost the argument and getting aggressive isn't going to win you any points, or friends.
 

JesusRocks1988

JesusRocks1988
I have to admit, there are a lot of scare stories on this forum about the dangers of Open, and after Private Group mode became available and I started using it as a convenient way to wing up with my friends for CGs without kill-stealing random CMDRs making everything take twice as long, I did start to become reluctant to venture back into Open mode.

Recently, however, I've reasoned with myself that I've somehow started to believe the scaremongering about Open coming from this forum - that there's an uber, bloodthirsty gang of PvP ships waiting to gank me at every port - and reasoned that actually, I've only ever met two hostile CMDRs and both have been in the middle of bounty hunting CGs and only in a Haz RES. Then I remembered that meeting other CMDRs is fairly rare outside of CGs, and all the times I have met others, they've been perfectly civil, getting on with whatever they're getting on with.

I think what really clinched it for me was at the Salome event. I spent hours upon hours sitting in Open waiting for Yuri Nakamura to appear; I met hundreds of other CMDRs, and not once did I have a hostile PvP encounter. Similarly, while sitting waiting for hours on end at the Barnacle site for a Thargoid appearance (that I still have not seen with my own eyes), I had a blast with some other CMDRs doing random acrobatics over the Barnies, and laughing as some jokers set off a Probe EMP.

So... bottom line is, I'm now back in Open as my main mode of play. I realised I was actually really quite silly to be reluctant to enter Open; I've been flying around Shinrarta Dehzra and Jameson Memorial in Open - sometimes not a single CMDR in sight. My home in LHS 20 is full of CMDRs, and they're all decent individuals. I've been doing some heavy Engineering as well in Open, and seen plenty of player ships coming and going from their bases as well, and doing the rare runs to unlock the clearly addicted Engineers. Not a hostile encounter in sight.

But then again, maybe we're just more civilised over on Xbox One ;)
 

LJITimate

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name-calling is a bit sad but saying they should play in solo is sometimes a reasonable thing to say, for example if someone is saying that players keep surprise attacking him/her then that's a part of the game and its fun for most people on whatever side of the attack your on and if you don't like that then that is literally one of the main reasons why solo is there and some people don't realise that
 

verminstar

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babelfisch said:
With all the recent threads about PvP, PvE, Open, Solo, Blocking, CLogging and Logout timers fighting on forums seems to be a thing again. As usual, everyone who prefers to not get randomly shot at for no apparent reason is getting called carebear, coward and special snowflake. There are also remarks about hiding in solo, the game being called Elite: Dangerous, a cut throat galaxy, people fearing the risk and playing as advertised. I think I have named them all.

The goal always seems to be to get traders in Open and to have them stay and fight when they get attacked. Or to discredit someone's argument. But if the best argument is that people should fear no risk, that they should be no carebears, why is it that you always chose to attack the weakest? You only fight if you have nothing to fear, isn't that exactly what you accuse them of?

I have no problem with people playing pirates and traders or cops and robbers. But if you want to insult others for their preferred playstyle you should look who is talking, carebear ;)
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I got no issues with anyone or how they play, but I do have issues with who I play with. There is a very toxic element to open play that I simply avoid entirely and have taken much abuse fer those choices over the past year...still here and still smiling right back in that way that tells others I really dont care. Im very capable od doing the name calling thing meself although mostly I like just winding them up and making fun of them on the forums.

Funny thing being, they were the ones that told me to go to solo in the first place. After my fourth ingame ganking, I asked on the forums if there was an alternative to this toxic playstyle...I got attacked bigtime and told to "git gud or go solo"...so I did as they suggested and still they aint happy.

I just dont get it...first they want me in solo, then they call me names fer being there and talk about how solo should never exist...so why they tell people to go there? Doesnt make sense really does it?

Anyway...is what it is...people gonna act like a bollox then Ill treat them as such...no skin of my nose why should I care?
 

MatYNWA

MatYNWA
Dont really care if someone call me by one of those names.

If you watch one of their steams, and it could be fun, when they are fighting worthy opponent, but many times it just killing enemy ship in few second, and you can actually feel how boring it is even for them, and they are basically just waiting for an angry response, an that looks like is the most funny thing for them, which is kind of sad.

So the best thing is not to care, do not response, dont create forum threads etc, i swear, they must have a guy, that just monitors all the forums dedicated to Elite game, so they could have more fun together on TS.

So funny, at times.
 

Ziggy Stardust

Ziggy Stardust
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