Elite Dangerous like a GTA V of Space?

[gamecat]

Irrelevant?

Okaaay.

It is entirely relevant. You base your "comparison" on the desire to accumulate wealth to buy better cars (from your post). MY experience of playing GTA online with friends is not based on that at all. We goof around, we try stupid things like chopper lifting a truck full of monkey mask wearing lunatics to the top of a sky scraper then trying to jump over a Cargo plane as it does a fly by, and then attempting to parachute into a moving vehicle after free falling for as long as we dare. We absolutely do not give two hoots about "ranking up" or "buying better vehicles". Everything we need for a good time is already there.

So, what I'm saying is, you should maybe listen to other points of view, rather than just declaring them "irrelevant" in a Borg like manner because it doesn't fit in neatly with your opinion.

Peace

Err until you make a salient point it's difficult for me to reply constructively with you. Im talking about fundamental game mechanics not the fluff. Basic concepts not the entire thematic dressing up and sandbox experience. It looks like Gary Penn has mentioned this very fact, there are similarities as I've pointed out. I can't help it if you cannot understand the quite simple mechanics that they share between them.

What you personally do in GTA V, again, isn't relevant to the mechanics.

 

[Armour]

Erm, what? I'm not having a pop at ED. Here come the white knights again!

I'm saying they are completely different games... different in every sense of the word.

Why must everyone feel the need to declare ED the plucky underdog?

We all love the game (well, most of us). It will get better, and yes I fully support it and am fully aware of the timescale that will likely take. Thanks for pointing out the obvious though

I'm saying they aren't completely different games in some important respects, and that a similar variety of wierd and wacky gameplay diversions to that found in GTA may well find their way into this game, but just not yet, probably due to lack of resources. I'm not having a go at you, or defending the game. I don't think it needs defending, to be honest.

The original game had an irreverent sense of humour, so it's not beyond the bounds of possibility to think that the devs aren't a bunch of po-faced types, and will look to include all manner of hijinks we haven't thought of yet. I'm looking forward to see what they come up with.

 

[Aquila Oculus]

Err until you make a salient point it's difficult for me to reply constructively with you. Im talking about fundamental game mechanics not the fluff. Basic concepts not the entire thematic dressing up and sandbox experience. It looks like Gary Penn has mentioned this very fact, there are similarities as I've pointed out. I can't help it if you cannot understand the quite simple mechanics that they share between them.

What you do in GTA V, again, isn't relevant to the mechanics.

Maybe you should read the posts properly before presenting poorly thought out rude replies.

Oh my goodness.... I really can't be bothered with supercilious people on this forum. You just won't listen to another opinion because it doesn't match yours. It's a common trait here unfortunately. The basic game mechanics are what the players interpret them to be, not what you declare them to be, and this is what you are failing to grasp. Don't bother yourself replying to me, I don't think it will end well so probably best we don't communicate from this point forward I feel.

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I'm saying they aren't completely different games in some important respects, and that a similar variety of wierd and wacky gameplay diversions to that found in GTA may well find their way into this game, but just not yet, probably due to lack of resources. I'm not having a go at you, or defending the game. I don't think it needs defending, to be honest.

The original game had an irreverent sense of humour, so it's not beyond the bounds of possibility to think that the devs aren't a bunch of po-faced types, and will look to include all manner of hijinks we haven't thought of yet. I'm looking forward to see what they come up with.

Me too, I'm looking forward to what the future will bring. I'm in it for the long haul to Hutton that's for sure

 

[knowles2]

It could be in the future but they need a lot more variety of different things to do before you could call this GTA in space. Things like orbital skydiving,

 

[Aquila Oculus]

It could be in the future but they need a lot more variety of different things to do before you could call this GTA in space. Things like orbital skydiving,

Halo jumping from a dropship doesn't sound too shabby eh?!

Or re-enacting Felix's jump from a Sidewinder?

 

[Geers]

Like what? Play dressup? Get in car chases? And... get in more car chases?

You can play tennis, golf, darts, pool, oh and also there's the whole "crime" thing.

 

[Armour]

You can play tennis, golf, darts, pool, oh and also there's the whole "crime" thing.

Elite: Country Club eh? Sounds great, sign me up. Perhaps I can also play "Candy Crush" on that crotch tablet on my pilot chair...

 

[Bambi]

You can play tennis, golf, darts, pool, oh and also there's the whole "crime" thing.

So you can play other games inside the game to distract from the fact that there is no game.

 

[Geers]

So you can play other games inside the game to distract from the fact that there is no game.

Yes there is. There's a lengthy story and all manner of co-op missions in MP.

 

[gamecat]

Oh my goodness.... I really can't be bothered with supercilious people on this forum. You just won't listen to another opinion because it doesn't match yours. It's a common trait here unfortunately. The basic game mechanics are what the players interpret them to be, not what you declare them to be, and this is what you are failing to grasp. Don't bother yourself replying to me, I don't think it will end well so probably best we don't communicate from this point forward I feel.

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Me too, I'm looking forward to what the future will bring. I'm in it for the long haul to Hutton that's for sure

I can't be bothered with arrogance and baiting. You have consistently, if not purposefully refused to look at the extremely basic underlying mechanics preferring to use a patronising tone while declaring irrelevant and obvious differences between the theme and sandbox nature of the games.

Mechanics are NOT interpreted, they are the fundamental features that underpin the game. How you use those mechanics may vary but it doesn't change them. Game experiences arn't an interpretive model of perpetual emerging gameplay. It's very often a very clear set of mechanics, I cannot see how you fail to understand this.

Likewise, it might be best for you to stop posting on this thread as you are not getting my basic point and are reverting to personal attacks, which is no surprise considering the tone of your posts.

 

[Aquila Oculus]

I can't be bothered with arrogance and baiting.

Could have fooled me...

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Sounds ridiculous?

Yes. Completely.

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Welcome any thoughts on this.

Clearly not.

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Don't bother yourself replying to me, I don't think it will end well so probably best we don't communicate from this point forward I feel.

Just to re-iterate.

 

[gamecat]

Could have fooled me...

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Yes. Completely.

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Just to re-iterate.

I didn't think you were going to reply?

Predictably you did.

I suggest you leave this thread, you are adding nothing but bad feeling.

Moving on, one of the most exciting features I would like to see in both GTAV and in ED would be player generated missions. Based upon requests for help or for equipment (if they allow trading in modules) or assasination missions and so forth. I know ED can't be openeed up with player generated content in the same way GTA V, has but more dynamic mission creation for other players would be an interesting mechanic to add. The most basic form of this I'd like to see are open invitations to missions. So for example there is a mission to transport 1000 platinum to an anarchy system. The mission has slots where players can carry the cargo and combined once everyone has the 1000T requirement the mission starts like a big convoy. Players are paid out based upon the number of players who join the convoy and deliver successfully. Also Players could add escort requests which then brings in other players to help. If there are interdictions players can help out against other players or NPC's. This kind of group play/mission interaction would bring the game alive. Currently in GTA V there is a basic messaging system where you can invite people to events (mission instances) but ED has the chance to really expand this into something special.

 

[Ian Phillips]

I'm going to make two points here:

1) GTA is based off of Elite (the earlier games). There are quotes around from the GTA developers to that effect, so seeing similarities between them is "good".

2) If you have differences of opinion, keep them civil. You can always resort to PM's to resolve differences if you wish, but don't start a little war as that will only end badly.

 

[Aquila Oculus]

I didn't think you were going to reply?

Predictably you did.

I suggest you leave this thread

Don't bother yourself replying to me, I don't think it will end well so probably best we don't communicate from this point forward I feel.

At what point did I say I wasn't going to reply. I asked you not to communicate with me any further and carry on with your thread. Was quite happy to not post anymore in here but you continue to poke me with a stick like any good troll does.

You can suggest all you want, you're not above me, not by a long shot pal.

Predictably you ignored my initial request that we didn't communicate further, and you continue to do so. You are one of those "I want the last word" types and they bug the hell out of me and I'm not going to let you do it just on principle now.

If you want to continue to bait me like a troll then carry it on in pm like the moderator suggests, and we can have a lovely conversation there, I'm sure we will be best of friends. Let's see if you can understand that.

Full disclosure because I don't believe in backstabbing;

Ian - Appreciate your point, you are saying exactly what I said (It will end badly) but I'm sorry this person just won't let it go. I've asked him to carry on with their topic and not communicate with me twice now but he/she just want's to act superior and carry it on. I've now asked them to pm me so let's see what happens. You never know he/she might surprise everyone and actually listen now a mod has got involved.

 

[Marsman]

Sounds ridiculous?

yep
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I'm going to make two points here:

1) GTA is based off of Elite (the earlier games). There are quotes around from the GTA developers to that effect, so seeing similarities between them is "good".

which is based off "Traveller" pen and paper games, i know because i played them
Also based off "Star Trader", which also was earlier. So whoever that GTA guy was who said this nonsense, he has no clue

It´s like saying bagels are based on white bread, and the bagel inventor pretending he invented bread

 

[Armour]

which is based off "Traveller" pen and paper games, i know because i played them
Also based off "Star Trader", which also was earlier. So whoever that GTA guy was who said this nonsense, he has no clue

It´s like saying bagels are based on white bread, and the bagel inventor pretending he invented bread

No, it's like saying that bagels (GTA) are based on white bread (Elite), which is based upon flour (Star Trader) and yeast (Traveller). The bagel guy isn't claiming that he invented white bread. Get your insane analogy correct.