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ANNOUNCEMENT Elite Dangerous: Odyssey | The Road to Odyssey - Mission Playthrough
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If you were to make a showcase mission video. Would you not show off the best ai in action? As for scaling with difficulty, I wouldn't be surprised if the scaling was limited to giving them higher accuracy and more hp. It's not as if frontier had a stellar reputation when it comes to ai.
I agree, even a sidewinder would be able to carry a small team in economy passenger cabins - be nice if they introduce a new passenger cabin variant for carrying other players (I doubt that somehow). That said if its limited to the current MC limits you could have a couple of ships working together.
tell me a game where this don't happen.
The latest AAA game released had a horrible AI, T poses and all kinds of weird stuff, so yeah...
I finally got around to watching the vid. Honestly, what I saw is what I expected from combat "space legs." Not the best thing I've ever seen but not the worst either. By now, I've come to understand Frontier's design philosophy: "good enough is good enough." In other words, they don't set out to revolutionize gameplay but rather get the job done with a functioning core gameplay loop and then iterate on it later. To be fair, that is probably the best design approach when dealing with a complex proc-gen game like Elite. Seeing how Odyssey is going to have to proc-gen these ground combat missions all the time, I just don't think it is feasible to go much beyond a Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare level of gameplay; an Arma III level of realism or detail is just not in the cards. So, I'll take it as it is what I expected anyway (truth be told, I prefer it).
The FPS combat of Odyssey is at the bottom of my list anyway. I mean, it is nice to have as yet another exciting combat activity, but I am much more interested in the exploration potential of "space legs." Next, I want to see a gameplay vid that shows a player standing on the surface of a pristine world busily exploring and discovering things. That is where I want most of the dev work on "space legs" to go. After that, I am eager to see what changes are coming to the core gameplay of Elite: ships, space stations, and outer space activities. This ground-pounder stuff is a nice expansion to Elite gameplay, but my heart belongs to space!
The FPS combat of Odyssey is at the bottom of my list anyway. I mean, it is nice to have as yet another exciting combat activity, but I am much more interested in the exploration potential of "space legs." Next, I want to see a gameplay vid that shows a player standing on the surface of a pristine world busily exploring and discovering things. That is where I want most of the dev work on "space legs" to go. After that, I am eager to see what changes are coming to the core gameplay of Elite: ships, space stations, and outer space activities. This ground-pounder stuff is a nice expansion to Elite gameplay, but my heart belongs to space!
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How is that relevant? The point was that the AI was behaving 'zombie-like'. The argument made was that this was because it was a low level AI.
I'm not convinced that higher level NPCS will show more realistic behaviour, rather they will simply take more time to kill and have a higher accuracy % when shooting at you.
If you're interested in gaming AI, this might be an interesting read:
Did you watch the stream they did yesterday? They addressed the ai. Worth a watch.
No didn't see it, I'll check it out.
My understanding is that they kept dying in the playthroughs and chose to use low level guards to save time.
If you've attacked harmless NPCs in the current game you'll know how dumb they are, whearas attacking elite NPC ships is a whole different experience I assume this is the case in ground combat too. I would like to see use of cover though.