Thanks for the reply, Liqua. It is the same idea as the old Steve Jackson books but with more scope and detail to the rules, content, and story. I think the replies here and the pretty poor showing on Nathan's gamebook KS are proving helpful in illustrating that this isn't really an idea that will sell enough to justify my 4.5K commitment. Will see how things develop over the next week or so, though.
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Thanks for the reply, Liqua. It is the same idea as the old Steve Jackson books but with more scope and detail to the rules, content, and story. I think the replies here and the pretty poor showing on Nathan's gamebook KS are proving helpful in illustrating that this isn't really an idea that will sell enough to justify my 4.5K commitment. Will see how things develop over the next week or so, though.
Falcon were excellent time-traveller SF gamebooks. Here's the first in the series: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/79541775/Falcon 1 - The Renegade Lord.zip . SF ones were few and far between, most gamebooks were the fantasy (Dungeons & Dragons) genre.
That's not SF though, which Gimi requested. Can I ask people to private mail Gimi rather than clutter up this thread further, with unrelated gamebook links, as I've already provided him with a free link to an old SF gamebook. Thanks everyone, much appreciated.
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Sounds very ambitious, I like most of the ideas though.
Where things like this can really work is in places where the computer game is weakest. Characters, working at a human level showing the individuals reactions to larger events. This isn't me saying you should do the other stuff, it wouldn't be elite if you didn't, but play to the strengths of the medium. I'll check back tomorrow when i'm more awake.
Where things like this can really work is in places where the computer game is weakest. Characters, working at a human level showing the individuals reactions to larger events. This isn't me saying you should do the other stuff, it wouldn't be elite if you didn't, but play to the strengths of the medium. I'll check back tomorrow when i'm more awake.
Thanks for the response and compliment, its appreciated!
I agree with you regarding character and content - its why I went with still keeping a plot* to the book and strong narrative drive, even though Elite (the videogame) is sandbox in its style of play. Further comments would be welcome, so look forward to discussing things later/earlier (???) with you. And anyone else! HINT!
* Assuming I actually commit to the project.
i think doing a KS for some of the funds would be a good idea, that will help generate interest.
My vague thoughts, rules should be kept to a minimum, it ain't D&D after all and they mustn't get in the way of the narrative.
Can you set links in ebooks? never thought of this before but direct links to the outcome pages makes sense. There is a program called quest or some such, could be worth a look. Of course it may have limitations and restrictions in regards to commercial and licensed properties.
I do a webcomic where I often use different perspectives to push the story forward, it seems to go down well so i think it will work for you.
My vague thoughts, rules should be kept to a minimum, it ain't D&D after all and they mustn't get in the way of the narrative.
Can you set links in ebooks? never thought of this before but direct links to the outcome pages makes sense. There is a program called quest or some such, could be worth a look. Of course it may have limitations and restrictions in regards to commercial and licensed properties.
I do a webcomic where I often use different perspectives to push the story forward, it seems to go down well so i think it will work for you.
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Right breaking down some ideas here, take this as you will.
Trading, not sure how you would do this effectively in a gameplay sense but it can certainly play a part in some decision making.
Space combat should be easy enough, the trick will be making it exciting.
this ties to the elite rating, the characters could start at a higher level and readers witness them advance but going from harmless to elite... don't make it look easy. give it meaning.
lasers etc, well that comes down to how you describe it.
I assuming you'll largely use ships from the games.
Sandbox... that will be tough, too open and the narrative will suffer, but lots of options will give the illusion weight.
Exploration, options for where to jump to, but it could get silly with too many options.
Legal status, very useful and well worth the effort. decisions must have consequences.
Different worlds, hell yes, this adds to the exploration element I'd love to feel that each location is distinct and adds something unique the the adventure.
Ship upgrades... hmmm like elite rating it depends on the time frame of the story. but yes as plot points it could work.
Okay after all that i largely got to the sameplace you did, i could delete this now but hey ho i went to the effort i may as well show it.
I think with hindsight I should have but I have no experience of getting something to market like this so was concerned that people wouldn't back me and also that I'd let them down. Also, Nathanael's also KSing a gamebook and I didn't want to step on his toes.
This amused me! ... But it is nice to see that my thought process made sense and is backed up by another person's. Best to be crazy in company rather than alone!
Hi Richard,
Sorry to hear that you've had a change of heart.
Sorry to hear that you've had a change of heart.
Thanks Nathan.
I think its just a lack of confidence to be honest and a desire to create an actual printed book which is an additional cost as I loathe ebooks due to the fact I can't read them - its why I haven't backed any of the Elite KS books.
I'm wondering if the Writer's Pledge could be purchased after the ED KS has run its course? That way I wouldn't get in the way of yours (as it would have finished) and I could properly gauge opinion.
EDIT: I've PM'd Michael to get his thoughts.
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