Elite is in the PSN sale!!

karamu

karamu
So, I noticed this:

Elite Dangerous

Elite Dangerous is the definitive massively multiplayer space epic, bringing gaming’s original open world adventure to the modern generation with a connected galaxy, evolving narrative and the entirety of the Milky Way re-created at its full galactic proportions. Starting with only a small...
store.playstation.com

I don't know much control FDev will have over their PSN listing but surely at least they would have to consent to it being reduced in price?

Also, *of course the Arx store still works on PlayStation...
 

Rochester

Rochester
That’s pretty standard I believe, FD would I imagine have consented when they signed the deal, goes with the territory. I’ve seen NMS on sale for less than £15… just swings and roundabouts. Honestly I don’t buy games at full price anymore ;)

I bought my PS4 edition of ED on sale - £4 two years ago, bargain.

I’d advise to shy away from ARX if on console, as its now ‘legacy’ so at some point in the far future it ‘might’ get turned off, only makes DB richer, it’s only cosmetic and doesn’t ‘fund’ game development ;).
 
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karamu

karamu
Rochester said:
That’s pretty standard I believe, FD would I imagine have consented when they signed the deal, goes with the territory. I’ve seen NMS on sale for less than £15… just swings and roundabouts. Honestly I don’t buy games at full price anymore ;)

I bought my PS4 edition of ED on sale - £4 two years ago, bargain.

I’d advise to shy away from ARX if on console, as its now ‘legacy’ so at some point in the far future it ‘might’ get turned off, only makes DB richer, it’s only cosmetic and doesn’t ‘fund’ game development
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Yeah, what I was getting was 1) the game shouldn't be even on the store now if FDev aren't supporting it and 2) they are still happy to take our money for Arx despite no longer supporting the game. Both points I think reflect very poorly on Frontier.
 

Rochester

Rochester
FD also confirmed they won’t edit the Codex in relation to its state in Legacy; they confirmed Codex contains content which is narratively locked, so any new buyers of PS4 reading it will be under a false impression that their actions might find something, which isn’t there yet, or won’t be in future.

ARX like any DLC is IMOP ‘buyer beware’ but people ask for it?
 
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Rochester

Rochester
The game is being supported, in the scope of game/crashing bugs fixes etc, but in a Legacy state nothing is really ever likely to go wrong. It’s just not going to receive any narrative updates, the BGS etc all run separately, it’s likely more like a maintenance mode. In that respect they DO want to keep it running, console players represent a proposed 30% of their audience.

It’s an old title, it’s been on sale before. If EDO was on console it too would go on sale about now…
 
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Red Anders

Red Anders
Old Duck said:
At the very least, they should rewrite the description of the game on console, assuming they haven't.
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Now that I can't argue with. This is what it currently says (as per the above link):

Elite Dangerous is the definitive massively multiplayer space epic, bringing gaming’s original open world adventure to the modern generation with a connected galaxy, evolving narrative and the entirety of the Milky Way re-created at its full galactic proportions.

Starting with only a small starship and a few credits, players do whatever it takes to earn the skill, knowledge, wealth and power to survive in a futuristic cutthroat galaxy and to stand among the ranks of the iconic Elite. In an age of galactic superpowers and interstellar war, every player’s story influences the unique connected gaming experience and handcrafted evolving narrative. Governments fall, battles are lost and won, and humanity’s frontier is reshaped, all by players’ actions.

Horizons Season Now Included!
Experience a whole new angle on the galaxy with the Horizons season, now included in Elite Dangerous. Journey from the stars to the surfaces of strange worlds, hit the ground running in the Scarab Surface Recon Vehicle, craft weapons, deploy ship-launched fighters and experience exhilarating multicrew co-op action.

A Galaxy Of Wonders
The 400 billion star systems of the Milky Way are the stage for Elite Dangerous' open-ended gameplay. The real stars, planets, moons, asteroid fields and black holes of our own galaxy are built to their true epic proportions in the largest designed playspace in videogame history.

A Unique Connected Game Experience
Governments fall, battles are lost and won, and humanity’s frontier is reshaped, all by players’ actions. In an age of galactic superpowers and interstellar war, every player’s personal story influences the connected galaxy and handcrafted, evolving narrative.

Blaze Your Own Trail
Upgrade your ship and customize every component as you hunt, explore, fight, mine, smuggle, trade and survive in the cutthroat galaxy of the year 3301. Do whatever it takes to earn the skill, knowledge, wealth and power to stand among the ranks of the Elite.

Massively Multiplayer
Experience unpredictable encounters with players from around the world in Elite Dangerous’ vast, massively multiplayer space. Experience the connected galaxy alone in Solo mode or with players across the world in Open Play, where every pilot you face could become a trusted ally or your deadliest enemy. You will need to register a free Elite Dangerous account with Frontier to play the game.

A Living Game
Elite Dangerous grows and expands with new features and content. Major updates react to the way players want to play and create new gameplay opportunities for the hundreds of thousands of players cooperating, competing and exploring together in the connected galaxy.

The Original Open World Adventure
Elite Dangerous is the third sequel to 1984's genre-defining Elite, bringing gaming’s original open world adventure into the modern generation with a connected galaxy, evolving narrative and the entire Milky Way recreated at its full galactic proportions.


So the paragraph headed 'A Living Game' needs to go, along with the references to the evolving narrative.

karamu said:
Sigh...
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Sigh all you like mate.
 

karamu

karamu
Red Anders said:
Sigh all you like mate.
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Yes, I will sigh when you ask a completely disingenuous "question" which is a thinly veiled dig.

I mean you've gone on to answer your own "question" pretty well:

Red Anders said:
So the paragraph headed 'A Living Game' needs to go, along with the references to the evolving narrative.
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Two of the most important aspects of the game are now defunct - that's called not supporting. The name is even "Legacy".
 

Red Anders

Red Anders
CCStonewall said:
You are right that they still support it, but how long before they pull the plug?
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I don't know, but here's the thing that OP missed quite spectacularly. That day will only be hastened by FDev no longer being able to make money from it, which is exactly why I find the OMG they put it in the sale!!!! outrage so baffling.

They could have ended the game on consoles completely when the decision was taken that 4.0 on consoles wasn't viable and not owed anybody a red cent - a game being 'live service' does not confer the right for it to be provided forever despite what some people on here seem to think. Games die. Biowaste happens.

Instead of dropping it though, they have bent over backwards to continue to make the legacy version of the game available, as well as offering opportunities for people who wish to (and are able to) switch platforms to do so at no cost. And yes, that means that this company have the audacity, the absolute cheek, to want to make some money from it. I have to imagine that some days after reading the forum, they wonder why they bothered.
 

tanner1ie

tanner1ie
Red Anders said:
I don't know, but here's the thing that OP missed quite spectacularly. That day will only be hastened by FDev no longer being able to make money from it, which is exactly why I find the OMG they put it in the sale!!!! outrage so baffling.

They could have ended the game on consoles completely when the decision was taken that 4.0 on consoles wasn't viable and not owed anybody a red cent - a game being 'live service' does not confer the right for it to be provided forever despite what some people on here seem to think. Games die. Biowaste happens.

Instead of dropping it though, they have bent over backwards to continue to make the legacy version of the game available, as well as offering opportunities for people who wish to (and are able to) switch platforms to do so at no cost. And yes, that means that this company have the audacity, the absolute cheek, to want to make some money from it. I have to imagine that some days after reading the forum, they wonder why they bothered.
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Source: https://youtu.be/lhckuhUxcgA
If they were "bending over backwards", they'd be releasing (or ideally have done so already!) the game in full, Odyssey, 4.0 and "live" mode on the "next gen" consoles, while adding everything that they can to 3.8 and the "last gen" consoles!!

They're just doing the bare minimum to generate new sales and cosmetic purchases from "legacy" mode! 😯😂🩲😀🤘 .
 
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Red Anders

Red Anders
tanner1ie said:
See my previous post again, which I just editted 😯😂😀🤘 ...
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They decided, after a lengthy process, that it was not viable to release the game as you suggested. Note that 'viable' here is (like any decision a company makes) a factor of development costs, projected revenue and technical complexity. I don't pretend to know exactly how the decision was weighted between those factors, none of us are ever going to know that definitively, but it's ultimately irrelevant since the outcome is known and it was a hard 'no'.

Within that paradigm (because I think reality, however upsetting it may be, is always the best basis for discussion) what they have done is the best that they could. In my opinion.

The primary purpose of legacy mode is surely to provide a way for those players who simply cannot (or will not) move to 4.0 to continue playing the game. I don't directly have a dog in this fight (I'm a PC player) but for the likely minimal amount of ongoing income they can probably expect from a now seven year old game for legacy consoles, I suspect it would actually have been easier for them to simply close it down.
 

karamu

karamu
Red Anders said:
bent over backwards
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Really? Doing the absolute minimum to keep the lights on is hardly "bending over backwards"...

And you misrepresent my original point - that the game is in Legacy mode (fair enough, better than being dead) but *nowhere on the PSN listing does it point this out to prospective buyers. Indeed the listing *still contains the misleading references to an evolving narrative and a living game.

I post screenshots on a gaming Discord I'm active in (not an Elite one) and one of the guys on there who didn't know much about Elite seems to be kinda interested after seeing my shots. I'm going to have to point out this huge "no ongoing development" caveat if he ever does think seriously about buying the game (and, hey, it's in the sale so why not?) because Frontier sure aren't going to.

If they clearly labelled the console games "Legacy" and had an accurate description in the stores and allowed potential new users to make an informed decision that would be absolutely fine. They don't do this - oversight or cynical ploy? Neither is a great look.

Red Anders said:
I don't directly have a dog in this fight (I'm a PC player)
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Well that was abundantly clear from your attitude.
 
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