That's great - you have the information available to you and have made that choice.
Elite is in the PSN sale!!
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Well for £3.99 that is a fantastic bargain. I have played >7000 hours in 'legacy' mode up to now, as it was on PS4 and I did the copy in Sept but moved to PC only recently to keep up with the storyline with the Live mode.
Remember that the copy process will be apparently re-activated in 2023, so that you can try ED on consoles for £3.99 and if you don't like it - leave it.
BUT, if you do like it, you will be able to request a transfer to PC for free and even buy EDO then, if you feel that way inclined (I don't - I like space sims not FPS).
I play on Nvidia Shield TV and can even play it on my crappy old laptop using Geforce Now for £8.99 per month (there is a free version) so no need for gaming PC even.
I suspect cloud gaming is gonna be the future.
Remember that the copy process will be apparently re-activated in 2023, so that you can try ED on consoles for £3.99 and if you don't like it - leave it.
BUT, if you do like it, you will be able to request a transfer to PC for free and even buy EDO then, if you feel that way inclined (I don't - I like space sims not FPS).
I play on Nvidia Shield TV and can even play it on my crappy old laptop using Geforce Now for £8.99 per month (there is a free version) so no need for gaming PC even.
I suspect cloud gaming is gonna be the future.
Mate leave it to them, when it was other sided they would do exactly the same as you and many other cmdrs before.
Nobody cares till they are affected by themself.
To discuss this topic out will ending in another treat where the same elders will appear and tell you, that Fdev had made all things right and you should be happy.
A neutral and critical position seems not to be allowed in any way in this forum.
Two options are available,
Be with the decision and stay quite about the elephant in the room.
Or be total blind and ignore all and lift Fdev to the heaven.
Other opinions are ,,moaning, dooming and so on.,,
It has a reason why elite is semi good at the moment and had lost a lot of its reputation due to oddysee and the aftermath.
It is when the only realistic and viable alternative was to pull the plug. I'm absolutely sure that turning the servers off would take less effort.
Fair enough - as I've already said, I agree completely that the store description needs changing. I'd like to be generous and assume it's an oversight, if not then in the UK at least (I don't know consumer law in other jurisdictions) I think they're on very dodgy ground leaving it as it is, since it currently includes clear untruths with regard to the 'evolving narrative' and ongoing development, both of which are no longer part of the game on console.
As for 'misrepresenting' your point, I merely misinterpreted it. Sorry about that. To err is human...
You're not the first person to quack on about my 'attitude' towards console players. This despite me having repeatedly said that I have no issue at all with consoles, console gamers and specifically with people playing Elite on console. Like you said, being misrepresented isn't very nice... I find the whole 'PC master race' meme to be utterly tiresome. It isn't the 90s any more, I'm well aware that many people choose the convenience of gaming on console and I think it's a shame that FDev, for whatever reason, decided that 4.0 on console wasn't a viable product for them. But so be it.
Speaking of, Elite died on Playstation long, long ago, when Frontier introduced Elephant Butt Leather and ruined the game. And you're right, nobody cared but me and this one other guy. So I did the only thing I could - I got a gaming PC and started over. In hindsight, it was one of the best decisions I've made (in regards to my gaming hobby).
Y'all make up your mind, is Legacy the future or not? If so, it can't be 'oh noes, FDev are still selling it, shame shame etc..' Or maybe the real point is to just try to dissuade 'regular' Elite players from upgrading to Odyssey.. hmm?
Nothing from this both possibilities, it’s just the fact that elite is wrong adversed in the store, and why people charge for cosmetics when the money didn’t had any impact on the state of the console version? I mean honestly, where are the promised URGENT fixes ? Where? The archive bug is still there.
So no effort to hold people with promised fixes for problems which comes in the Odyssee aftermath into legacy, why people should then spend money ? For what? For a game which is in maintaince mode? No updates no fixes no nothing ?
In my opinion it would be fair to shut down the arx store (console only), change the description in the stores on consoles and be totally transparent to the last few cmdrs who are willing to spend some money into elite.
Ps: I am on pc in the meantime
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Yes, Egosoft and Keen pay me a stipend for every player I convince not to buy Odyssey. Best job ever!
Hold on. Why should the Arx store be closed?
As I said, I completely agree that the console game description needs to be changed to make it completely clear that if someone buys the game now, the are getting it 'as is' with no future development, narrative or updates. But if someone wants to spend a few quid for paintjobs for their ships, knowing those limitations, why shouldn't they be able to? I get that you wouldn't, you've made that abundantly clear, but others might.
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So then rhetorical question here, why shouldn’t console players couldn’t complaining of this unfortunate situation?
My point is, when there is no effort to support the legacy mode on console and console specific problems, why people should spent money? To support a game where no support is available ? Just on pc?
Seems to be not fair, and back to the topic and the point which is agreed by yourself, misleading adversiment should be removed.
And seasonal gifts for the arx should be available for all plattforms, not only for on specific.
I'm not saying someone 'should' or 'shouldn't' spend money - I'm saying that it's their choice, whereas by calling for the Arx shop to be removed, which has absolutely nothing to do with the issue about ongoing development, you're advocating for removing that choice from them. The Arx shop doesn't sell 'ongoing development' it sells paintjobs - if someone decides to buy one, they get it.
The now-misleading aspects of the game description should definitely be removed, we're in complete agreement on that.
The seasonal Arx gifts; as has already been noted we're talking about £1.40's worth of Arx over the whole event and honestly, if it were me I wouldn't be getting my knickers in a twist over £1.40. The game required an update with the event code to gift the Arx and it was made very clear that 3.8 would not be getting further updates, so really there's not much else to say about that.
You know, one day the PC version of the game is going to die as well. All things come to an end.
I never understood this thinking, treating a business as if it were a non-profit organization with a moral imperative to support it. I buy a product because I want that product, not because David Braben is standing outside Walmart ringing a bell at Christmas. If I want a paint job bad enough, I'll buy it, just like I did with some Midnight Black paint jobs a couple of years ago (during a time I was a bit miffed at Frontier BTW).
Now I can see people being cautious about investing in a game that might be turned off at the server a month from now. I can also see people holding back on buying DLC if they've had bad luck with updates, as I've had with MSFS. And I also understand the "good feels" of buying a DLC knowing that you're supporting a small indie company. I feel this way when I get DLC for Space Engineers, especially in contrast to all the idiots who demand all DLC be free forever, but even then I would never buy a DLC I'm not interested in, just to "support" a business. There are much more worthy causes beckoning for my philanthropy.
At this point Old Duck, I actually hope someone's paying you.
To be fair, I will address this separate point. I do agree that the store description needs updating, I don't know what the possibilities are for that though behind the scenes, and unfortunately, there are also many games on Steam that are EOL but don't state it in the description. The reviews will generally reflect that status, as the store reviews for Elite do as well - but, still, it's not the best scenario. I have no issue with Arx being sold either but, again, do agree that there should be full disclosure for those who want to do so.
Still, that's beside the point I was making about the disparity between how some suggest that legacy is the new way forward for Elite but yet, it seems to come from the same quarters that it's so wrong that Frontier still allow Arx to be purchased for cosmetics. Seems odd, wouldn't they want to keep purchasing Arx to show Frontier the error of their ways?