Elite just made me feel small.

Space is big, think about this, see how far away that galaxy is, you know the one over a billion light years away... well, if it still exists, I wonder how much further away it really is? How far will it have traveled in a billion years?

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dense star cluster
I found this.
With a mass of more than 10 000 suns packed into a volume with a diameter of a mere three light-years, the massive young star cluster in the nebula NGC 3603 is one of the most compact stellar clusters in the Milky Way
(Link)

It's only 20 kly out from the bubble. Now I wonder: Is it in the game?

Our measurements have a precision of 27 millionths of an arcsecond per year. This tiny angle corresponds to the apparent thickness of a human hair seen from a distance of 800 km.
Boggle.
 
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About alien life and the fermi paradox , there are billions of valid reasons why we have no contact.
Indeed being the first race to be in this very young galaxy is possible.
but also what if we are the last? (in our region)
what if other aliens dont understand us?
what if our comunications have not reached them yet.
what if they just dont care or think its a curse from the skies.
maybe there brains are so different to ours it just does not matter.
maybe a race of sentient machines wiped out all life in the galaxy and they are coming for us :p
maybe we are just not in a state were they would want to communicate with us
maybe life is out there but if either too different to us or even not evolved enough.
anything is possible , again I used the field comparison to the galaxy , say life is an anthill... the distance between two anthills is usualy large (for the ants that is)
 
...are we nothing more than pathetic animals living on a world that is no more important that a spec of dust falling in a pool of water? and ineed we dont matter ,and for some reason after thinking about it for a while I liked that idea , being unimportant made everything make sens....

Yes.

But cheer up Brian!
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My take on this is two sided. One that we evolved naturally, the other is that some ancient higher being placed us on this planet to colonise Earth. If the first is true, other planet lifeforms may be just as stuck on their own world just like we are.
 
Being insignificant in the grand scheme definitely takes the pressure off. But there is another way of looking at it.

It takes time for complex materials to form and create the building blocks of life. And the violence of the Universe has only recently calmed down enough to give life a chance to evolve without being obliterated by incessant deadly sterilizing radiation from bursts of star formation and death. Yet these star deaths are what create the materials necessary for life. So only very young stars have enough of the recycled heavy elements needed to create complex life forms like you and I.

Our star is actually abnormally rich in these building block materials, and it took 4 billion years for primitive life to evolve into Us. So really, we might be the FIRST intelligent life forms in the galaxy! Which not only explains the Fermi Paradox, but also means that we would all indeed very rare and therefore quite special.

David Braben has managed to extrapolate the whole of the galaxy, and your place within it, from just a handful of seeds. This might seem to be a humbling experience, but the thing to remember when being shown what a minuscule dot you are compared to the mind-numbing vastness of space is that... You are Privata.

I'm starving. Can I have that bit of fairy cake?
 
David Braben has managed to extrapolate the whole of the galaxy, and your place within it, from just a handful of seeds. This might seem to be a humbling experience, but the thing to remember when being shown what a minuscule dot you are compared to the mind-numbing vastness of space is that... You are Privata.

I'm starving. Can I have that bit of fairy cake?

Hah! - and are you sure that the laws concerning the real universe are any more complicated? Or has it just been going on for far, far longer?

You look inside at atom, there are rules concerning the behavior of the protons, neutrons and electrons. Look into them and there are rules concerning the movement of quarks and leptons. Look inside them and... nobody knows, but there are bound to be rules. Are we actually sure that the most fundamental rules of physics are not so simple, yet endlessly reiterated until they take on the appearance of complexity simply because there are so many iterations of those rules?

I'm not. Think how complex your computer's behavior is when all it really does it compare 1s and 0s extremely quickly. And it's a neolithic abacus compared to the iterations of logic within the quantum of matter.

Maybe we're smart enough - but we don't have a good enough microscope?
 
Sins the start in elite I found the scale of the universe to be amazing.
Planets , nebula and so on.

But last night something changed : for somereason I counted how many seconds it tooke me to fly over a planet the seize as earth... and then afterwards , a few hours latter I flew over an astroid ring with no intent...
And then it hit me , that astroid ring its bigger than earth by a multiple !

I felt dizzy and sad , are we nothing more than pathetic animals living on a world that is no more important that a spec of dust falling in a pool of water? and ineed we dont matter ,and for some reason after thinking about it for a while I liked that idea , being unimportant made everything make sens.

All the horrors in life , war , death and so on made sens , I allso felt for the first time acceptance towards traumatic events from my chidhood/teenagehood... because I live in a world that is smaller than an astroid ring.


Maybe I am being silly but there you go , elite sort of changed my life...
And I am the sort of person who thinks of space and its sheer scale all the time !

We are a tiny part of the infinite.
Scientists think they have figured out where the Universe is going... I'd say it isn't going nowhere, it has always been here and always will be. We are just experiencing a time pattern.
If you think the Universe we experience is big, think about the multiverse, and all time dimensions... Which are probably just as real as this one, just not actualized.
 
Hah! - and are you sure that the laws concerning the real universe are any more complicated? Or has it just been going on for far, far longer?

You look inside at atom, there are rules concerning the behavior of the protons, neutrons and electrons. Look into them and there are rules concerning the movement of quarks and leptons. Look inside them and... nobody knows, but there are bound to be rules. Are we actually sure that the most fundamental rules of physics are not so simple, yet endlessly reiterated until they take on the appearance of complexity simply because there are so many iterations of those rules?

I'm not. Think how complex your computer's behavior is when all it really does it compare 1s and 0s extremely quickly. And it's a neolithic abacus compared to the iterations of logic within the quantum of matter.

Maybe we're smart enough - but we don't have a good enough microscope?
It's all one very large and very complex multidimensional fractal

It's usually my answer when people push me on religion - it's not exactly spirituality to believe there is a great and huge pattern rather than something designed. There are moments when you see tiny bits of it and know exactly what's going to happen next but mostly it's way beyond us, but wow is it beautiful.

The upside being that the chance of us being alone are pretty much zilch - I really believe there's life everywhere. The repetition and intrinsic complexity of fractal patterns make it a near inevitability
 
I am happy to see such a positive reaction to my post , but something needs to be made clear in my opinion.

I see humanity as being nothing as a good thing , I like it that way...
My opinons about how unimportant we are has never changed , just elite put it in there in a scale were I could witness it.
There is a difference between being told something is big , reading something is big and being ''there'' and thats why elite changed , elite did something that no book , no movie no documentary could ever do. show me as if I was there
 
I am addicted to a game that makes me feel insignificant...

I am less than a flagella on a microbe feeding on the corpse of an ant, somewhere not yet discovered.

And - I kinda enjoy it :) .
 
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