Horizons Empty Open Play Space ( where are all the real Cmdrs?)

When I began playing ED around 18mths ago and due to the many posts on these forums on griefers etc I played in solo until I joined the Mobius group where I have been esconced for the vast majority of my playing time. This, I told myself was because I was useless at combat and much preferred trading and exploration. As my ratings in those options rose I would look with trepidition at my useless combat rankings and think I have to do something about that. As I became more successful trading and exploring I would occasionally build a combat ship and try it out. I built combat rigged versions of a Cobra MkIII, an Eagle, a Viper and a Vulture as well as others but they all ended in disaster one way or another. I never had any success until I got enough credits amassed to build an FDL, wow, what a ship instant love affair and suddenly I had that little edge I needed. I then went through the Engineers upgrade process with her and also with my other ships. The funny thing is though that now I had figured out the combat moves I felt just as much at ease in my Anaconda and Python as in the FDL. I gradually worked my way up to the 76% competent I am rated at today and am confident enough in my ability to know when to fight and when to run, and if I lost a ship now it would be through my own stupidity rather than being overmatched and panicking.

A couple of weeks or so back I thought I will try open play and have played open ever since. In that time I have never been accosted by a single real player, only NPC's. I thought perhaps this is because my home system and surrounds are out on the edge but I am only between 130 - 280ly from the 5 or so most used engineers systems and I see lots of real players in my travels to and from them so I can't be that far out of the way. Now I will say that I am not a pirate or other toerag type I never look for trouble and only ever retaliate on being interdicted and checking out the scan of who I am up against before I decide how to respond. I tried HiRes sites and compromised beacons etc and I did see a lot of real player action there and handled it pretty well but still found myself just floating around and scanning the same ships over and over most of the time, but normal space seems pretty devoid of all dangerous "griefers" for me anyway. For those of you who are really experienced, is this how you find it as well, that the vast majority of your kills are NPC's rather than other players and if so why do so many of us feel the need to be in a Mobius type group or play in solo?.
 
You don't have to go very far from a hotspot for the population of real commanders to drop a great deal. That's because there are just so many systems that the chances of a random encounter are low unless the system is popular in some way. However, the engineers bases, shinrarta, the rare trading centres, the starter systems, and various other places.. are always teaming with commanders. Also random encouters do happen, there are reports of people bumping into each other 10,000LY from sol.. which must have been amazing :) I bump into people in completely random systems fairly regularly. As a pirate, one learns where people hang out :)
 
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It'll also depend on what you're flying.

In my T7 i tend to get more attention, in the cobra, not so much.
 
When I began playing ED around 18mths ago and due to the many posts on these forums on griefers etc I played in solo until I joined the Mobius group where I have been esconced for the vast majority of my playing time. This, I told myself was because I was useless at combat and much preferred trading and exploration. As my ratings in those options rose I would look with trepidition at my useless combat rankings and think I have to do something about that. As I became more successful trading and exploring I would occasionally build a combat ship and try it out. I built combat rigged versions of a Cobra MkIII, an Eagle, a Viper and a Vulture as well as others but they all ended in disaster one way or another. I never had any success until I got enough credits amassed to build an FDL, wow, what a ship instant love affair and suddenly I had that little edge I needed. I then went through the Engineers upgrade process with her and also with my other ships. The funny thing is though that now I had figured out the combat moves I felt just as much at ease in my Anaconda and Python as in the FDL. I gradually worked my way up to the 76% competent I am rated at today and am confident enough in my ability to know when to fight and when to run, and if I lost a ship now it would be through my own stupidity rather than being overmatched and panicking.

A couple of weeks or so back I thought I will try open play and have played open ever since. In that time I have never been accosted by a single real player, only NPC's. I thought perhaps this is because my home system and surrounds are out on the edge but I am only between 130 - 280ly from the 5 or so most used engineers systems and I see lots of real players in my travels to and from them so I can't be that far out of the way. Now I will say that I am not a pirate or other toerag type I never look for trouble and only ever retaliate on being interdicted and checking out the scan of who I am up against before I decide how to respond. I tried HiRes sites and compromised beacons etc and I did see a lot of real player action there and handled it pretty well but still found myself just floating around and scanning the same ships over and over most of the time, but normal space seems pretty devoid of all dangerous "griefers" for me anyway. For those of you who are really experienced, is this how you find it as well, that the vast majority of your kills are NPC's rather than other players and if so why do so many of us feel the need to be in a Mobius type group or play in solo?.

Rarely ever see people unless near the most populated systems. The hype of griefer city is either ONE.. simple paranoia and fear, or TWO intentional misleading to populate certain other named private groups.

I will stick with Open and solo. I want to support David Braben. he likes open.
 
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Stuck to solo for a while as I was sailing very close on the credits and rebuy side of thing. Mainly in open now. Still Bob into solo every now and then, especially if I have a hold full of mats for a Engineer unlock...
 
Always Open, a lot of misleading views and opinions on how "dangerous" it is. Some risk perhaps but hey whats life without risk?
 
Frontier ensured that running into players would be a relatively rare occurrence in any mode when they failed to make the only mode with a potentially unlimited number of players inclusive to all legitimate play styles.

Over the weekend I was doing the Gandii CG in Mobius. It was a rarity to be alone in an instance. There were almost always players at the station, in supercruise in the system and fighting in the CZ. I switched to open for a couple of runs to see how it compared and didn't see a single player. Back to Mobius and the system was populated again.

I'm sure open would have been populated if I wasn't in an unusual timezone. But still, Mobius was populated regardless.
 
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I've mostly played in open, rarely see griefers (I don't do the CGs usually at least) currently many thousands of ly from sol and not seen another commander of any type for over a month. But Generally I think open is pretty safe actually. Only ever had trouble near engineers or cgs.
 
Hmm, not sure. I play in Open all the time and encounter PC Commanders fairly regularly as I traverse the bubble. Some nice, some not so.

I would suggest trying to remain within a 200LY circumference around SOL, that might improve your encounter rate.

I suppose your location could play a large part. I am in the UK.
 
I have only ever played in open and I am on every night for around 6 hours.
I have only bumped into 6 players so far, and 2 of them refused a friend request.
 
I got interdicted last night by a cmdr in a murderconda fitted with an instant-can't-escape-Interdiction XL FSD Interdictor and insta-super-zoomy-turbo-killer engineered everything.

I wasn't carrying any cargo and I wasn't wanted. Not only was I in an AspEx, I was armed only with a single mining laser.

I lost 6 million Cr, and over an hour's work.

So the answer to "where are all the CMDRs" is - at least in my case - in solo. :p
 
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